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MOTORWAY MADNESS - DILLIGAFF - 28-02-18
Why is it in this country that as soon as there is a few millimetres of snow there is a sudden rash of accidents, especially on motorways.??
Back when I learnt to drive cars did not have power steering or anti-skid brakes and I drove literally by the seat of my pants. I could feel a skid or loss of traction and dealt with it.
How about compulsory retests for all drivers causing accidents in the snow??
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - robbo - 28-02-18
Also this must be the first occasion that hundreds of new drivers have driven on snow. A skid-pan lesson could be incorporated leading up to the test. I think they do this in one or some Scandinavian countries. Mind you there's God knows how many people driving about on licences where someone else took the test for them, so that would be a non starter.
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - steve 10562cc - 28-02-18
They should be made to learn to control a MK1 Ford Capri 2ltr on snow they were bad enough in the dry. Seen a couple of Chelsea tractors parked in hedges thick t**ts forget about the couple of tons of steel they have got to get stopped.
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - agricola - 28-02-18
Millions out there on the roads without either licence/tax/insurance/mot. Too many without sufficient gumption as to how to drive in the present conditions, to adapt. Numerous alterations to the motorcycle test regime over ecent years to try to reduce casualties/improve riding skills etc, but a 17 year can still go out and buy a car without restrictions, or modify one for enhanced perfomance
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - fazersharp - 28-02-18
(28-02-18, 12:30 PM)robbo link Wrote: Also this must be the first occasion that hundreds of new drivers have driven on snow. A skid-pan lesson could be incorporated leading up to the test. I think they do this in one or some Scandinavian countries.Could not agree more - skid pan lesson added to the test. A few years ago when my daughter got her first and it snowed I took her to an empty car park and skidded around in the snow to get a bit of a feel for it. She now lives on a brand new build estate up a crappy inappropriate back road for the size of the build the houses are full of first young time buyers who most likely have never driven in snow.
Bugs me at the best of times people travelling too close to me but then they do it on compacted snow -aaahhh. But my trick is to yank on the handbrake around a corner and do a very nice drift around it and to the twat behind it looks like I am out of control and then they hang back :thumbup
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - DILLIGAFF - 01-03-18
BBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.
All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - darrsi - 01-03-18
Got sent this yesterday......who needs motorways or snow?
Just shocking, and should be immediately banned from using any vehicle.
Sorry, address doesn't work, i'll try and find the video.
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - darrsi - 01-03-18
(01-03-18, 12:22 PM)DILLIGAFF link Wrote: BBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.
All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.
Cars were flying down my side road yesterday about 30mph, but the whole road is black ice. Due to positioning of the road it stays in the shade until mid afternoon then a couple of hours later it's dark so unless the temperature rises it just stays put, but gets topped up by any more snow.
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - YamFazFan - 01-03-18
(01-03-18, 12:41 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=DILLIGAFF link=topic=23819.msg276161#msg276161 date=1519903364]
BBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.
All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.
Cars were flying down my side road yesterday about 30mph, but the whole road is black ice. Due to positioning of the road it stays in the shade until mid afternoon then a couple of hours later it's dark so unless the temperature rises it just stays put, but gets topped up by any more snow.
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BMW's?.
Most of the occasions where I see this sort of thing it's BMW drivers.
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - darrsi - 01-03-18
(01-03-18, 08:09 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=23819.msg276164#msg276164 date=1519904465]
[quote author=DILLIGAFF link=topic=23819.msg276161#msg276161 date=1519903364]
BBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.
All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.
Cars were flying down my side road yesterday about 30mph, but the whole road is black ice. Due to positioning of the road it stays in the shade until mid afternoon then a couple of hours later it's dark so unless the temperature rises it just stays put, but gets topped up by any more snow.
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BMW's?.
Most of the occasions where I see this sort of thing it's BMW drivers.
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No matter what the occasion or weather, if bad driving is involved a BMW will pop up somewhere. :lol
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - YamFazFan - 01-03-18
(01-03-18, 09:08 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=23819.msg276197#msg276197 date=1519931390]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=23819.msg276164#msg276164 date=1519904465]
[quote author=DILLIGAFF link=topic=23819.msg276161#msg276161 date=1519903364]
BBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.
All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.
Cars were flying down my side road yesterday about 30mph, but the whole road is black ice. Due to positioning of the road it stays in the shade until mid afternoon then a couple of hours later it's dark so unless the temperature rises it just stays put, but gets topped up by any more snow.
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BMW's?.
Most of the occasions where I see this sort of thing it's BMW drivers.
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No matter what the occasion or weather, if bad driving is involved a BMW will pop up somewhere. :lol
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Are they still all rear wheel drive?.
Not such a superior driving machine on these icy roads lol
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - focced_off - 02-03-18
Carnage on the M66 - note the video is NOT speeded up!
Just when you thought you'd seen it all - it kicks off again from 1 minute... Amazingly no fatals. UK cant drive / too fast? Never! :eek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lpWqHjuAWM
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - robbo - 02-03-18
Driving on the wrong side of the road is maybe the problem :rollin :rollin .
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - YamFazFan - 02-03-18
Can't see the link to that video :rolleyes
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - YamFazFan - 02-03-18
(02-03-18, 04:48 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: Can't see the link to that video :rolleyes
...but I can see it on my phone :rolleyes
Another mystery.
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - slappy - 02-03-18
Not UK, and definitely speeded up, you can tell easily from the people walking about.
Still it shows people just don't know how to drive in adverse conditions.
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - fazerscotty - 02-03-18
(01-03-18, 10:32 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=23819.msg276198#msg276198 date=1519934911]
[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=23819.msg276197#msg276197 date=1519931390]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=23819.msg276164#msg276164 date=1519904465]
[quote author=DILLIGAFF link=topic=23819.msg276161#msg276161 date=1519903364]
BBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.
All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.
Cars were flying down my side road yesterday about 30mph, but the whole road is black ice. Due to positioning of the road it stays in the shade until mid afternoon then a couple of hours later it's dark so unless the temperature rises it just stays put, but gets topped up by any more snow.
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BMW's?.
Most of the occasions where I see this sort of thing it's BMW drivers.
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No matter what the occasion or weather, if bad driving is involved a BMW will pop up somewhere. :lol
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Are they still all rear wheel drive?.
Not such a superior driving machine on these icy roads lol
It's not the rear wheel drive thing trust me - I drive a 2003 2.5 V6 Jag - rear wheel drive automatic. Today I watched in my mirror as a '67' plated front wheel drive Merc struggled to get away from the lights behind me :rollin :rollin
It's not what you've got - but what you do with it!
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Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - robbo - 02-03-18
(02-03-18, 05:57 PM)slappy link Wrote: Not UK, and definitely speeded up, you can tell easily from the people walking about.That's a news item on the I-35 in Iowa last month. Still madness wherever it was.
Still it shows people just don't know how to drive in adverse conditions.
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - Billy Balthorpe - 06-03-18
Hang on, had a new 520 D delivered last September, the first rear wheel drive car I've had in about 30 years. It's better in the snow and ice that my 3 year old Passat. More grip and better roadholding in the snow. The traction control is fantastic. But that doesn't mean I drive inappropriately in the prevailing weather conditions, driving so fast that you can't stop is not an exclusively BMW preserve. So there!
Re: MOTORWAY MADNESS - Wharfe - 11-03-18
I was delayed by three hours leaving work after a night shift the other day because most of my colleagues either couldn't make it in or had to stay home because every school in West Yorkshire closed. once i finally got out I really couldn't see what the fuss was. Yeah, some snow, and a bit of a blizzard but christ really?
What really tickled me was at the bottom of Hollins Hill out of Bradford there was the inevitable slow up of traffic as everyone either creeps up or does a 3 point turn and bales out - the cars baling out were exclusively "Ilkley Tractors" - Range Rovers... Er guys, 4wd yeah? If you're afraid to use it then just buy a foccin' car?