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Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Tubz1983 - 20-04-17

Ok so i almost kicked the garage door off earlier, mechanics at my local have tightened up the bolts that hold the brake fluid cap/diaphram on so tight that im close to stripping them, massively infuriating as all i want to do is top up the fluid (new discs/pads/fluids so im guessingvtheyvha e bedded in now)
Any ideas? Or am i just huba have to pop down and get them to loosen them off so i can top it up and replace the old bolts?



Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Bretty - 20-04-17

Brake fluid is proper corrosive. They are probably 'rusted' in. Order some replacement screws and buy some reverse drill bit / stud extractors. I got some from b&q I think when I had to get mine out.


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Tubz1983 - 20-04-17

They have only been removed and put back in the past 2 weeks so i doubt they are rusted solid, just tightened up way too tight, particulally when these particular bolts are notoriously soft,  i have a electric hand held i can get from work so i might try edging them out on the lowest setting before i go back to the garage


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - joebloggs - 20-04-17

I've started them with a punch in the past. Get someone to hold the bars and tap the outer edge of the screw. Chuck them in the bin and replace with countersunk Allen screws


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - iamthearrison - 20-04-17

Swapped mine for stainless countersunk allen bolts the other week, cost me 3 quid off ebay


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Bretty - 20-04-17

I use an impact screwdriver quite a bit on my bike. It has a screwdriver (interchangeable) head and rotates either way when you whack it with a hammer.


Steel screws commonly fuse to aluminium alloy parts.


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Tubz1983 - 20-04-17

Fo you have a link for that? And bolt size if handy? T


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Bretty - 20-04-17

A link to an impact driver?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B003OUUQX4/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1492712531&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=impact+driver&dpPl=1&dpID=51IC229BxbL&ref=plSrch


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Bretty - 20-04-17

Screws:
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-Front-Brake-Cylinder-Reservoir-Lid-Cap-Screws-Stainless-/151432270518?nav=SEARCH


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Bretty - 20-04-17

These extractors got mine out when they were really stuck and rounded:
http://www.diy.com/departments/ptx-mixed-damaged-screw-remover-set-54mm-5-pieces/702452_BQ.prd


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - joebloggs - 20-04-17

£3.00 for two screws, you have more money than sense, those focers are about 20p each.

Find a supplier on ebay etc and measure some fasteners on the bike you'd like to change (screen bolts for example would probably be M5 x 20mm) then email a list of fasteners, type and dimensions to said supplier and see what price he comes up with.

Copy and paste the email to several sellers to get the best price

Just don't search for bike specific kits, you'll always pay through the nose for them



Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Grayo - 20-04-17

(20-04-17, 08:07 PM)joebloggs link Wrote: £3.00 for two screws, you have more money than sense, those focers are about 20p each.
Absolutely !!
We have a supplier of stainless steel fittings near here and those screws would undoubtedly be about 10p each.


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - bandit - 20-04-17

Reservoir screws are M4 x 12mm.


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - slappy - 20-04-17

(20-04-17, 08:12 PM)Grayo link Wrote: [quote author=joebloggs link=topic=22411.msg258885#msg258885 date=1492715228]
£3.00 for two screws, you have more money than sense, those focers are about 20p each.
Absolutely !!
We have a supplier of stainless steel fittings near here and those screws would undoubtedly be about 10p each.
[/quote]


:agree
Just google nut and bolt suppliers near you, I use a local place near me for all replacement bolts, nuts, washers etc. They are  cheaper than ebay and quicker, even had 7mm cap heads in stock years ago when I rebuilt the brakes on my old cbx550.


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - joebloggs - 20-04-17

Screwfix are pretty good on packs of screws, pack of M6 x 20mm x 50 button head for £3.59

Thats cheaper than many advertised on ebay and local to most peeps


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Bretty - 21-04-17

Haha, measure, google, email, shop around... to save myself a couple of quid. What do you think my time is worth?! :-P


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - joebloggs - 21-04-17

(21-04-17, 12:00 AM)Bretty link Wrote: Haha, measure, google, email, shop around... to save myself a couple of quid. What do you think my time is worth?! :-P

I'd say time spent looking after the bike, servicing or replacing screws etc is priceless.

If the OP had done whatever work the shop did for him we wouldn't be having this conversation


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - Bretty - 21-04-17

Time spent servicing the bike is priceless. (perhaps good value is a better word), especially if you enjoy it.


but my time is also priceless (or £7.50 if you assume I get paid minimum wage). I do place a lot of value on my time... yet it's kind of funny how I don't mind going to the trouble of doing internet searches and posting links to help someone.. even to have someone turn around and tell me I have more money than sense. Oh well.
:-)


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - bandit - 21-04-17

Tubz1983,Bretty, M4 x 12mm are 7p each from a nut & bolt place but they are 9 miles (no place nearer) from my home so when you figure in fuel/time I would order from here. Smile


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M3-M4-M5-M6-M8-A2-STAINLESS-STEEL-COUNTERSUNK-BOLTS-CSK-ALLEN-SOCKET-SCREWS-7991/111284266897?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D9a53ddeb073d4523819bbe64f4286cb8%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D111284266897


Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws - fazersharp - 21-04-17

Its funny with costs, the Mrs looking at grapefruits in Asda and had to have a long think about weather to buy them cause they are 25p more expensive than aldi.
I too sometimes cant be arsed to go to my local fixings supplier - struggle to park - get wet - find that they are shut for lunch-dont have the one I need, so just order off ebay and get the post man to bring them to me.
Also I have been in my local fixing supplier and its almost embarrassing fr me and a great annoyance for him when I spend 20p on 4 screws and he says "Just take em " I then feel guilty and drop £1 in the charity tin on the counter, so by the time I have added my petrol costs I may as well got them off ebay.