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Braided Brake Lines - Grant1Shepherd - 14-01-17
Hey again guys hope you are all well.
Have been thinking recent about putting some braided brake lines on my fazer and just wanted to know:
A. Does anyone else have them on their FZS600 and how are they?
B. Do you all think it's worth doing?
C. What are the best braided brake lines (front and rear) for the bike as so many manufacturers make them?
Hope you guys can help me out as always ☺
Re: Braided Brake Lines - Tefer - 14-01-17
A. I have them, i find slight improvement in braking, old rubber hoses will be well passed there use date now too, so a good mod I think.
B. Yes as above slight better breaking, you can also choose different colours and helps customise the bike a bit.
C. You will get a Foc-U discount from HEL on braided lines, think its 25%
Re: Braided Brake Lines - tommyardin - 14-01-17
(14-01-17, 04:42 PM)Tefer link Wrote: A. I have them, i find slight improvement in braking, old rubber hoses will be well passed there use date now too, so a good mod I think.
B. Yes as above slight better breaking, you can also choose different colours and helps customise the bike a bit.
C. You will get a Foc-U discount from HEL on braided lines, think its 25%
Agrees with Tefer,
The chances are that the rubber originals on your bike are possibly 10 or 15 years old, and rubber does perish and after a while some breaking efficiency is lost due to the old rubber pipes ballooning under heavy breaking, so a real improvement in braking is gained with braided lines.
Plus as Tefer says you can choose a colour to match your custom scheme if you have one, or, the colour of the bodywork of you bike if you don't, another plus is they are not so fat and chunky so they look a lot sharper.
I have Cobra lines on mine, but someone did say that he thought they were manufactured in the same factory, Hells are highly thought of and if you can get soem dosh off as a Foccer that would be the way to go I would imagine.
Good luck :thumbup and as said, it's a great upgrade and win win in every direction
Re: Braided Brake Lines - tommyardin - 14-01-17
Hey Tefer who is the statue of in your Nick picture?
Re: Braided Brake Lines - Tefer - 14-01-17
(14-01-17, 06:37 PM)tommyardin link Wrote: Hey Tefer who is the statue of in your Nick picture?
Some German guy, I can't remember the name. :rollin
Re: Braided Brake Lines - Frosties - 14-01-17
(14-01-17, 04:13 PM)Grant1Shepherd link Wrote: Hey again guys hope you are all well.
Have been thinking recent about putting some braided brake lines on my fazer and just wanted to know:
A. Does anyone else have them on their FZS600 and how are they? Big improvement, best brakes of all my bikes.
B. Do you all think it's worth doing? Definitely
C. What are the best braided brake lines (front and rear) for the bike as so many manufacturers make them? HEL...in your choice of colour and with discount.
Hope you guys can help me out as always ☺
Re: Braided Brake Lines - darrsi - 14-01-17
To be honest when people finally do get round to changing their brake lines i think the fact that the OEM ones are so tired that any new lines will feel like a big improvement, but braided are definitely the way to go anyway.
Re: Braided Brake Lines - celticdog - 15-01-17
Last summer I had to replace my braided lines as eventually these get tired too! They'll last a lot longer than the rubber tho'.
I went with a set of venhills, UK made a bargain on fleabay at £50
Re: Braided Brake Lines - darrsi - 15-01-17
(15-01-17, 10:27 AM)celticdog link Wrote: Last summer I had to replace my braided lines as eventually these get tired too! They'll last a lot longer than the rubber tho'.
I went with a set of venhills, UK made a bargain on fleabay at £50
Yeah same as, i opted for the Venhills as well, they do what they say on the box.
Re: Braided Brake Lines - fazersharp - 15-01-17
My front are Hel
No one so far has mentioned the option of a two or 3 line front, I went for a two line front.
Re: Braided Brake Lines - tommyardin - 15-01-17
(15-01-17, 02:42 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: My front are Hel
No one so far has mentioned the option of a two or 3 line front, I went for a two line front.
Same as that Sharpie, I went for the two line front as opposed to the three line setup as it cuts out the splitter manifold on the front fork yoke, plus it reduces the number of bango bolts/joints, less chance of leaks. win win it seems to me. :thumbup
Re: Braided Brake Lines - Grant1Shepherd - 15-01-17
Hey guys thanks for all your help so far.
I was actually going to ask about the 2 or 3 front line option. Wanted to know what's it all about? What is the differences between 2 and 3 front lines?
Re: Braided Brake Lines - fazersharp - 15-01-17
(15-01-17, 07:00 PM)Grant1Shepherd link Wrote: Hey guys thanks for all your help so far.You dump the crossover do - dah splitter that gos from the leaver, otherwise you have one banjo bolt at leaver goes to a crosover then to two lines left and right, A 2 line set up has a double banjo as in Tommys picture that then gos direct to the left and right doing away with the extra bar across the wheel on the yoke - have a look at it now and follow the rubber and see
I was actually going to ask about the 2 or 3 front line option. Wanted to know what's it all about? What is the differences between 2 and 3 front lines?
You see tommys picture and there are two lines attached to one - each line gos left side then right side and you bypass and remove the cross bar.
If you did not do it this way then there would be one connection at tommys picture which then gos to a cross connecting bar then from there is gos to left and right so you have a 3 line - main piston to cross bar to two sides or 2 line main piston via a double banjo bolt - like tommys picture to each side.
I dont think it makes a difference either way two are cheaper and less joins to leak and makes the bike lighter by he weight of the crosover bar !
Re: Braided Brake Lines - Wookee - 15-01-17
I replaced my aged rubber ones a couple of years ago with 2 line HELs and immediately noticed a difference, but this could be down to the rubber ones being knackered.
Re: Braided Brake Lines - the cueball - 16-01-17
(14-01-17, 04:42 PM)Tefer link Wrote: A. I have them, i find slight improvement in braking, old rubber hoses will be well passed there use date now too, so a good mod I think.
B. Yes as above slight better breaking, you can also choose different colours and helps customise the bike a bit.
C. You will get a Foc-U discount from HEL on braided lines, think its 25%
as above...
Re: Braided Brake Lines - rw711 - 16-01-17
(15-01-17, 10:27 AM)celticdog link Wrote: Last summer I had to replace my braided lines as eventually these get tired too! They'll last a lot longer than the rubber tho'.
I went with a set of venhills, UK made a bargain on fleabay at £50
Interesting that they degrade as well as was watching a 2nd hand set from breakers on Ebay - maybe not such a good idea, you just cant gaurantee where they are in the lifecycle.
I had Goodridge on my old bike, as at the time they were the household name, but they had crappy plated banjo bolts, if buying again I would make sure they include stainless fittings not zinc plated.
- How do you claim your FOC discount then?
Re: Braided Brake Lines - darrsi - 16-01-17
(16-01-17, 10:36 PM)rw711 link Wrote: [quote author=celticdog link=topic=21661.msg249918#msg249918 date=1484472450]
Last summer I had to replace my braided lines as eventually these get tired too! They'll last a lot longer than the rubber tho'.
I went with a set of venhills, UK made a bargain on fleabay at £50
Interesting that they degrade as well as was watching a 2nd hand set from breakers on Ebay - maybe not such a good idea, you just cant gaurantee where they are in the lifecycle.
I had Goodridge on my old bike, as at the time they were the household name, but they had crappy plated banjo bolts, if buying again I would make sure they include stainless fittings not zinc plated.
- How do you claim your FOC discount then?
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Don't even consider used brake lines, you'll have zero idea of what they've been through or what condition they're in, it's basically false economy.
As always mentioned on here before, don't scrimp on brakes and tyres.
Re: Braided Brake Lines - Jules-C - 17-01-17
I wonder if anyone has ever followed the notes in the Owners Manual and Service Manual and replaced the brake hoses every 4 years and brake seals including master cylinder every 2 years?
After 16 1/2 years I've still got 3 out of 4 original brake hoses and never touched the master cylinder seals
Re: Braided Brake Lines - Grant1Shepherd - 17-01-17
(17-01-17, 01:02 AM)Jules-C link Wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever followed the notes in the Owners Manual and Service Manual and replaced the brake hoses every 4 years and brake seals including master cylinder every 2 years?
After 16 1/2 years I've still got 3 out of 4 original brake hoses and never touched the master cylinder seals
Haha wow I never knew the manual says to replace it all so quickly, I would say most Fazers don't see new hoses or seals to at least 10-15 years old, mine is 16 years old this year and I've only just put this post up about braided brake lines :lol
Re: Braided Brake Lines - fazersharp - 17-01-17
I did my front at about 13 years old but at 19 years old (20k miles ) I am still on the oem rear, 2nd set of pads I do keep a close eye on the condition and one of the reasons is that I dont want the back to be so good as using braided lines.
When I brought the bike at 3 years old the rear pads were so low I had to change them a year or so later and I have had the same ones in since then the last two riders must of been stamping on the brake.