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Starting problem - keno - 08-01-17
Last few months i have been having a on and off starting problem,sometimes turns over ok then all of a sudden i just get a click coming from the battery area,if i put in gear and slightly bump in gear it will start when i hit the button.Not sure if it is starter motor,battery or some electrical issue, anyone had this or similar.
Battery charges ok and sits at 12.6 on the optimate but its over 10 years old?
Clicking sounds like it is coming from fusebox area down by battery.
Oh and its a 98 fazer 600
Re: Starting problem - Ruby Racing - 08-01-17
It may show good volts, but it can be lies!
Check the output of the battery when you try to start it.
At 10 years old I would suspect your battery has had its day. 10 years is a good innings though.
Re: Starting problem - darrsi - 08-01-17
12.6 is too low, and 10 years old is too high.
I think you've had your moneys worth out of it, time for a new one now i reckon.
Re: Starting problem - unfazed - 08-01-17
:agree
Re: Starting problem - keno - 09-01-17
Thanks for replys will give it a start and check output when i get in from work,think you are all right about it due to age.
Any one tried the motobat batterys the yellow ones or is there any other good batterys been a while since i bought one :rolleyes
Re: Starting problem - darrsi - 09-01-17
I bought another one recently, which I chose for the slightly higher ampage.
Have a look around for the best price.
VARTA YT12B-BS 12v-12Ah
Re: Starting problem - Ruby Racing - 09-01-17
I've not been impressed with Motobat, I'd go for a Yuasa.
Re: Starting problem - bandit - 09-01-17
Yuasa or Varta not Motorbatt they are less powerful.
Re: Starting problem - Jules-C - 09-01-17
If it makes the clicking noise but then starts successfully using the button after a slight in gear bump the battery is probably ok but I'd check the starter motor brushes as they could be stuck or worn beyond their limit.
Re: Starting problem - Graham53 - 09-01-17
I had something similar with my foxeye a few years back , every now and then all it would do is click , bump it it would be ok then a few months later same thing .
Changed battery , same problem then took out starter motor and checked but in the end it was the starter solenoid.
Re: Starting problem - daviee - 09-01-17
im with jules on this recon the starter motor it the culprit if it was the battery the it wouldnt matter if you rocked it back and fourth it still wouldnt turn over if the battery was flat
Re: Starting problem - keno - 09-01-17
I was thinking both the starter solenoid and brushes as it is weird it will start after just a minor bump from just pushing while sat on it and it will either start or just click,where is the starter solenoid, its not down by the fuse box by any chance?
Will still do a battery output check on my meter tomorrow as i finish work early,bike is nearly nineteen years old and in the 11 i have had it this is the first problem i have had, so not bad going as it is used every day all year.
Any way it is either battery,starter or solenoid,but which one :book
Re: Starting problem - darrsi - 09-01-17
No matter what the problem is, treat your bike to a new battery, i think it deserves it.
Re: Starting problem - keno - 09-01-17
(09-01-17, 09:22 PM)darrsi link Wrote: No matter what the problem is, treat your bike to a new battery, i think it deserves it.
Yes probably will,also need a new set of downpipes as the originals have finally started blowing in all the wrong places,but the bike is used constantly,amazed they have lasted this long :eek
Re: Starting problem - keno - 10-01-17
Battery output on my meter was showing 10.65 on first attempt and 9.35 second prod of starter
Re: Starting problem - daviee - 10-01-17
you need to check it when its running not when pressing the starter with the engine running you should see about 14 volts
Re: Starting problem - bandit - 10-01-17
Load test should not be less than 9.5v on a charged battery & with engine running output at terminals should be between 13.8v & 14.5v.
Re: Starting problem - keno - 12-01-17
Yep done the test and it is 14.46 so looks like battery is still ok after over 10 years,looks like starter motor or solenoid think will start with solenoid.
Re: Starting problem - bandit - 12-01-17
Did you do the load test as well.
Re: Starting problem - keno - 12-01-17
bike was running when i connected the meter