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Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 24-08-16
Hi All,
So i usually frequent the FZS600 section, i have a 2001 box eye....just got a 2003 FZS1000
Over the moon with it but have noticed something i cannot quite figure out...
When i accelerate, in my mind hard, then sometimes it almost feels like the chain jumps a tooth, or the rear wheel skips, i cannot figure it out, i am going to double check the chain slack later, and the rear tyre is a little worn so may need replacing, aside it rides really nice.
It is worth noting its the first 1000cc i have ridden, i do own and ride a GSXR 750, and have not noticed this problem, so maybe its more likely chain and not wheel starting to spin up....
Thanks
Anutz!
Re: Skipping or spinning... - Fazerider - 24-08-16
Other possibilities to consider: slop in the suspension such as worn bushes in the linkage or swingarm pivot... or a knackered shock, or the cush drive or a dying wheel /cush bearing.
Re: Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 24-08-16
(24-08-16, 08:39 PM)Fazerider link Wrote: Other possibilities to consider: slop in the suspension such as worn bushes in the linkage or swingarm pivot... or a knackered shock, or the cush drive or a dying wheel /cush bearing.
So just checked the front sprocket and its ok...not sure if the chain slack is too much, just got in and i am sure i can head some slight slapping, but again only under hard acceleration do i see this...
how can i test for the above i.e. bushes/bearings, pulling and looking for movement on wheels, swingarms etc?
It rides well just not sure about this skipping/slipping...
Re: Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 24-08-16
(24-08-16, 08:39 PM)Fazerider link Wrote: Other possibilities to consider: slop in the suspension such as worn bushes in the linkage or swingarm pivot... or a knackered shock, or the cush drive or a dying wheel /cush bearing.
Have had a good tug around the suspension linkages, and the swingarm, little bit of play in that, but nothing more than what is in my FZS600, or my GSXR750, its play but not around linkages, more as a whole unit....it was the same when it was MOT'd
I will keep an eye, i think the rear tyre is low, so that combined with this happening only as i really wind it on, makes me wonder, will also get a photo of the sprocket so can see what others think, my judgement says its ok but i am no expert...
Re: Skipping or spinning... - old son - 25-08-16
I have a similar sensation when I use the back brake hard to slow down. Feels like the chain has jumped, sort of clanking noise. I suppose it could be chain hitting the rubber guide?
Re: Skipping or spinning... - Timbo - 25-08-16
Skipping?
Is your pre-load wound up too hard? The bike needs to be able to squat a little under acceleration to allow the tyre to work.
Bw
Re: Skipping or spinning... - The Male Whale - 25-08-16
Post up a pic of the front sprocket?
I would say that is odds on!
Whale
Re: Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 25-08-16
(25-08-16, 02:20 PM)Timbo link Wrote: Skipping?
Is your pre-load wound up too hard? The bike needs to be able to squat a little under acceleration to allow the tyre to work.
Bw
Pre-load is on 6 i think....will get a photo of the sprocket up tonight after work.
Re: Skipping or spinning... - Dustydes - 25-08-16
(25-08-16, 02:20 PM)Timbo link Wrote: Skipping?
Is your pre-load wound up too hard? The bike needs to be able to squat a little under acceleration to allow the tyre to work.
Bw
Lots of info on set up
Here is one
http://www.gostar-racing.com/club/motorcycle_suspension_set-up.htm
Re: Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 25-08-16
Front
![[Image: sp1_zpslhwgeo9c.jpg]](http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/sp1_zpslhwgeo9c.jpg)
Rear
![[Image: sp2_zpssynm0aut.jpg]](http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/sp2_zpssynm0aut.jpg)
Re: Skipping or spinning... - Timbo - 25-08-16
Starting to look hooked I'd say.
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Re: Skipping or spinning... - Nigel1000 - 25-08-16
Is this happening in all gears or just one gear?
Could be gear selector issues, normally 2nd gear caused by ham fisted wheelies.
Re: Skipping or spinning... - Dustydes - 25-08-16
(25-08-16, 06:02 PM)anutz link Wrote: Front
Rear
On it's way, but not enough to skip, at least not if adjusted correctly
Re: Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 25-08-16
i am going to adjust the chain, i think its a tad loose, i might have heard it rattling a little last night when i slowed down - will try that first, just servicing exup right now.
Re: Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 27-08-16
So as suggested by Fazerider...
I have had a good tug at the frame, wheels etc, there is play in the rear wheel, not around the whole circumference, but definite clunking when i try to twist it with hands at top and bottom...
do you think bearing replacment is something i can DIY, or is it best left to someone who has done it before?
Re: Skipping or spinning... - unfazed - 27-08-16
The best way to check for bearing play in the wheel is to remove the caliper. The caliper will and pads will reduce the level of play because of their grip on the disk.
Rattling on slow down could be the EXUP valve is it is not adjusted properly
Re: Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 27-08-16
So i have the rear caliper off, i just put the wheel in with the hanger etc, and then torqued it all up with the chain adjusted, and rotated it around trying at points to twist it...
When i rotate the rear wheel i can hear and feel different sounds/patterns, as opposed to a smooth running of the chain over the sprockets, and my FZS600 or GSXR750 have no such play when i try to twist their rear wheel...
Re: Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 27-08-16
at the risk of looking like an idiot, have a video of what i think it play, will stick it up asap....
Anutz
Re: Skipping or spinning... - anutz - 27-08-16
So this may be normal, i have no idea
https://vimeo.com/180425737
Re: Skipping or spinning... - sadlonelygit - 27-08-16
That front sprocket is scrap and the rear doesn't look too good.