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front lights mod legal requirements - chrischristopherson1313 - 08-05-16
Hi is it full head lights beam legal requirements?
I have changed H4 for H1 on both lights , (modified bulb holder of course)
Now I have left side light on all the time or both when I swich on high beam switch.
But becouse of that I loose high beam H4 option which it's fine with me
As I am never usually it anyway.
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - darrsi - 08-05-16
It's not just a high beam, it's a passing light as well, you'd have been better off swapping to both H4 instead.
Looks like a fail anyway.
http://www.motuk.com/Motorcycle%20MOT.asp
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - chrischristopherson1313 - 08-05-16
(08-05-16, 08:49 AM)darrsi link Wrote: It's not just a high beam, it's a passing light as well, you'd have been better off swapping to both H4 instead.
Looks like a fail anyway.
http://www.motuk.com/Motorcycle%20MOT.asp
Ok i have read somewhere else that high bean are not required.
I can't put H4 as it be to bright for other vehicles?
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - paulchucky - 08-05-16
(08-05-16, 09:42 AM)chrischristopherson1313 link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=20044.msg231568#msg231568 date=1462693771]
It's not just a high beam, it's a passing light as well, you'd have been better off swapping to both H4 instead.
Looks like a fail anyway.
http://www.motuk.com/Motorcycle%20MOT.asp
Ok i have read somewhere else that high bean are not required.
I can't put H4 as it be to bright for other vehicles?
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i have H4 100w in both sides full+ main beam work on both lights
as for TOOOOO BRIGHT for others ferk m they always say they never saw us officer ! ! !
if they can`t see a bright light coming towards them then they must drive with eyes closed
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - darrsi - 08-05-16
(08-05-16, 09:42 AM)chrischristopherson1313 link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=20044.msg231568#msg231568 date=1462693771]
It's not just a high beam, it's a passing light as well, you'd have been better off swapping to both H4 instead.
Looks like a fail anyway.
http://www.motuk.com/Motorcycle%20MOT.asp
Ok i have read somewhere else that high bean are not required.
I can't put H4 as it be to bright for other vehicles?
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I believe 02/03 models come with H4 both sides anyway.
As for being too bright, absolutely no chance with the light reflectors that are on your bike.
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - fazersharp - 08-05-16
Its been years since i did the mod but I think mine has both normal beams on both sides and on full beam I think it is just one side that comes on. But I think my modded side looks brighter when you see it from the opposing traffic because it is pointing in that direction, which is why when i did the mod on the instructions from this sight it included an in-line fuse to take out so it was quickly OEM spec for the mot as otherwise the beam pattern would be wrong.
I dont ride at night and I only did the mod for better daylights-onvisibility
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - Fazerider - 08-05-16
(08-05-16, 09:54 AM)paulchucky link Wrote: ... if they can`t see a bright light coming towards them then they must drive with eyes closedIt's hard to judge distance when you're being dazzled.
There used to be a monthly article called "Crash Course" in one of the bike mags many years ago. By someone from the insurance industry, it was a brief explanation of police findings from various accidents.
One such case was a fatal head-on collision between a bike and car at night on a hazard-free bit of road. The conclusion was that the bike had its lights on full beam, the car driver couldn't see where he was going, braked, but it wasn't enough.
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - fazersharp - 08-05-16
(08-05-16, 04:57 PM)Fazerider link Wrote: [quote author=paulchucky link=topic=20044.msg231573#msg231573 date=1462697669]It's hard to judge distance when you're being dazzled.
... if they can`t see a bright light coming towards them then they must drive with eyes closed
There used to be a monthly article called "Crash Course" in one of the bike mags many years ago. By someone from the insurance industry, it was a brief explanation of police findings from various accidents.
One such case was a fatal head-on collision between a bike and car at night on a hazard-free bit of road. The conclusion was that the bike had its lights on full beam, the car driver couldn't see where he was going, braked, but it wasn't enough.
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It just shows you that when it comes to bikes its hard to do right for doing wrong.
Just the other day I saw a bike with two extra side lights mounted on the crash-bars and they were flashing like the ones that you see cyclists use - they about through me into an epelict fit
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - sinto607276 - 08-05-16
(08-05-16, 09:54 AM)paulchucky link Wrote: i have H4 100w in both sides full+ main beam work on both lightsAny chance of telling/showing how you done this as I was looking into doing this recently but failed as I couldn't figure out a way to put a H4 on the nearside.
Cheers
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - dublet - 08-05-16
(08-05-16, 06:00 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=Fazerider link=topic=20044.msg231600#msg231600 date=1462723023]It's hard to judge distance when you're being dazzled.
[quote author=paulchucky link=topic=20044.msg231573#msg231573 date=1462697669]
... if they can`t see a bright light coming towards them then they must drive with eyes closed
There used to be a monthly article called "Crash Course" in one of the bike mags many years ago. By someone from the insurance industry, it was a brief explanation of police findings from various accidents.
One such case was a fatal head-on collision between a bike and car at night on a hazard-free bit of road. The conclusion was that the bike had its lights on full beam, the car driver couldn't see where he was going, braked, but it wasn't enough.
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It just shows you that when it comes to bikes its hard to do right for doing wrong.
Just the other day I saw a bike with two extra side lights mounted on the crash-bars and they were flashing like the ones that you see cyclists use - they about through me into an epelict fit
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If you really want to be seen and be legal, get some daylight running lights.
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - darrsi - 09-05-16
(08-05-16, 09:54 AM)paulchucky link Wrote: [quote author=chrischristopherson1313 link=topic=20044.msg231571#msg231571 date=1462696950]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=20044.msg231568#msg231568 date=1462693771]
It's not just a high beam, it's a passing light as well, you'd have been better off swapping to both H4 instead.
Looks like a fail anyway.
http://www.motuk.com/Motorcycle%20MOT.asp
Ok i have read somewhere else that high bean are not required.
I can't put H4 as it be to bright for other vehicles?
[/quote]
i have H4 100w in both sides full+ main beam work on both lights
as for TOOOOO BRIGHT for others ferk m they always say they never saw us officer ! ! !
if they can`t see a bright light coming towards them then they must drive with eyes closed
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Isn't that taking a bit of a risk?
Have a read of this.
http://www.f150online.com/forums/electrical-systems/254192-100w-vs-55w-bulbs.html
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - fazersharp - 09-05-16
(08-05-16, 11:19 PM)dublet link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=20044.msg231602#msg231602 date=1462726826]It's hard to judge distance when you're being dazzled.
[quote author=Fazerider link=topic=20044.msg231600#msg231600 date=1462723023]
[quote author=paulchucky link=topic=20044.msg231573#msg231573 date=1462697669]
... if they can`t see a bright light coming towards them then they must drive with eyes closed
There used to be a monthly article called "Crash Course" in one of the bike mags many years ago. By someone from the insurance industry, it was a brief explanation of police findings from various accidents.
One such case was a fatal head-on collision between a bike and car at night on a hazard-free bit of road. The conclusion was that the bike had its lights on full beam, the car driver couldn't see where he was going, braked, but it wasn't enough.
[/quote]
It just shows you that when it comes to bikes its hard to do right for doing wrong.
Just the other day I saw a bike with two extra side lights mounted on the crash-bars and they were flashing like the ones that you see cyclists use - they about through me into an epelict fit
[/quote]
If you really want to be seen and be legal, get some daylight running lights.
[/quote]
You mean extra light as I already ride with both left and right lights on, like I said they are not full beam but one side points more at the oncoming traffic so it looks brighter, they dont blind anyone because I dont ride at night
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - crickleymal - 09-05-16
Apart from 100W being illegal (although how could anyone tell easily?) the alternator puts out 18A at 5000 rpm. Two 100W is going to take about 16A so you have bugger all left for tail lamp (0.5A), brake light (2A) and indicators (2A front and 2A back).
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - Jules-C - 09-05-16
(09-05-16, 11:25 AM)crickleymal link Wrote: Apart from 100W being illegal (although how could anyone tell easily?) the alternator puts out 18A at 5000 rpm. Two 100W is going to take about 16A so you have bugger all left for tail lamp (0.5A), brake light (2A) and indicators (2A front and 2A back).
And don't forget the ignition system probably takes between 25 and 50 watts so that's another 2A to 4A.
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - BBROWN1664 - 09-05-16
You don't use an H4 on the near side. That stays as an H1 and does low beam only.
The mod makes a change to the off side only and uses the existing H4 bulb that's there. All you are doing is enabling the low beam on the off-side which does stay on when high beam is turned on.
Re: front lights mod legal requirements - paulchucky - 11-05-16
(08-05-16, 11:08 PM)sinto link Wrote: [quote author=paulchucky link=topic=20044.msg231573#msg231573 date=1462697669]Any chance of telling/showing how you done this as I was looking into doing this recently but failed as I couldn't figure out a way to put a H4 on the nearside.
i have H4 100w in both sides full+ main beam work on both lights
Cheers
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i`ll take some photos at the weekend and post