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Stuck chain links advice? - markus2066 - 20-02-16

Hi Guys,


Hope your all well.


I have noticed a number of stiff/seized links in my chain, I have taken the rear wheel off and done my best to free them up some were easier than others....


I'm surprised this has happened as the chain and sprockets looked like they were quite new when I brought the bike and it gets regular (daily) use and I regularly oil the chain (holts lube). Perhaps the previous owner neglected the chain abit or its a cheap chain, not sure.


Is they anything product or process anyone is aware of which might help revive the chain abit, it would be nice to try and get a few more miles out of it as its otherwise quite unworn. Also I just purchased two new tyres and a carb rebuild kit so rather not spend another £100 on it at the moment....


Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks


Re: Stuck chain links advice? - CaptainCazador - 20-02-16

Give the chain a liberal squirt of WD or similar roll the offending links on to the rear sprocket and give the chain a good belt with a rubber mallet.

Also either fit a scottoiler or use a decent chain lube muc odd dry lube is quite good.


Re: Stuck chain links advice? - HarryHornby - 20-02-16

I know red98 has been known to take the whole chain off and soak it overnight in engine oil to help with this problem.


Re: Stuck chain links advice? - Gnasher - 20-02-16

(20-02-16, 12:35 PM)markus2066 link Wrote: I have noticed a number of stiff/seized links in my chain, I have taken the rear wheel off and done my best to free them up some were easier than others....

I'm sorry to say the chain has had it.

(20-02-16, 12:35 PM)markus2066 link Wrote:
I'm surprised this has happened as the chain and sprockets looked like they were quite new when I brought the bike and it gets regular (daily) use and I regularly oil the chain (holts lube).


It's very possible it was fitted badly/adjusted incorrectly/cheap chain.  The amount of chains I've had to replace with a few 1000's miles on after they've been fitted badly is scandalous, many just have little or no idea how to fit them. 

(20-02-16, 12:35 PM)markus2066 link Wrote: Perhaps the previous owner neglected the chain abit or its a cheap chain, not sure.
More than likely.

(20-02-16, 12:35 PM)markus2066 link Wrote:
Is they anything product or process anyone is aware of which might help revive the chain abit, it would be nice to try and get a few more miles out of it as its otherwise quite unworn.
If it's an O/X ring chain there's little that can be done as by definition the O/X rings that stop the grease getting out stop lub getting in. You will be able to nurse it for a while but there is no way of reversing the damage and it will only get steadily worse.  If it's not O/X ring lubing will help but only to a point. 

(20-02-16, 12:35 PM)markus2066 link Wrote: Also I just purchased two new tyres and a carb rebuild kit so rather not spend another £100 on it at the moment...

Why do you need to rebuild the carbs?


Re: Stuck chain links advice? - markus2066 - 20-02-16

Hi,


Thanks for all the speedy replies guys.


Some of the links were really stiff so I ended up going at them with a can of gt85, think I'm going to drop a load of engine oil on the inside of the chain and every day this week on lunch at work (imagine if anythings got a chance of working its way into the chain its a lighter oil), bound to make a mess but I don't really want yo take the chain off. If I get a few more pay packets under my belt before I splash out on a new chain and sprockets.


Not sure if its an O or X hard to see with all the dirt (which I'm sure is part of the issue), riding all of a very wet winter certainly wont of helped I'm sure.


I rebuilt my carbs because one if the seals on the float bowl was leaking and a set of seals were £18 and a whole kit was £40, turned out to be a good move most of the seals were dry/hard and cracked. Its early days but its starting much better, it wasn't starting like it used to before.






Re: Stuck chain links advice? - Ferg - 20-02-16

(20-02-16, 01:27 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=markus2066 link=topic=19438.msg224739#msg224739 date=1455968140]
I have noticed a number of stiff/seized links in my chain, I have taken the rear wheel off and done my best to free them up some were easier than others....

I'm sorry to say the chain has had it.

(20-02-16, 12:35 PM)markus2066 link Wrote:
I'm surprised this has happened as the chain and sprockets looked like they were quite new when I brought the bike and it gets regular (daily) use and I regularly oil the chain (holts lube).


It's very possible it was fitted badly/adjusted incorrectly/cheap chain.  The amount of chains I've had to replace with a few 1000's miles on after they've been fitted badly is scandalous, many just have little or no idea how to fit them. 

(20-02-16, 12:35 PM)markus2066 link Wrote: Perhaps the previous owner neglected the chain abit or its a cheap chain, not sure.
More than likely.

(20-02-16, 12:35 PM)markus2066 link Wrote:
Is they anything product or process anyone is aware of which might help revive the chain abit, it would be nice to try and get a few more miles out of it as its otherwise quite unworn.
If it's an O/X ring chain there's little that can be done as by definition the O/X rings that stop the grease getting out stop lub getting in. You will be able to nurse it for a while but there is no way of reversing the damage and it will only get steadily worse.  If it's not O/X ring lubing will help but only to a point. 

(20-02-16, 12:35 PM)markus2066 link Wrote: Also I just purchased two new tyres and a carb rebuild kit so rather not spend another £100 on it at the moment...

Why do you need to rebuild the carbs?
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What he said. Its goosed. Don't waste your time. Get a new chain before you need a new engine.


Re: Stuck chain links advice? - unfazed - 20-02-16

Scrap the chain if it is bad enough to have seized a link, it is bad enough to break. :eek

A chain breaking could well cost much more than £100 and you would still have to buy a chain. :'(

Cut your losses and buy a chain and sprockets :thumbup


Re: Stuck chain links advice? - Frosties - 21-02-16

(20-02-16, 09:35 PM)unfazed link Wrote: Scrap the chain if it is bad enough to seized a link, it is bad enough to break. :eek

A chain breaking could well cost much more than £100 and you would still have to buy a chain. :'(

Cut your losses and buy a chain and sprockets :thumbup


:agree  Have a look at linky below. Bloke wasn't going fast but keep an eye on the steering he has to do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIf1TZWiBV4


Re: Stuck chain links advice? - markus2066 - 21-02-16

Hi guys, seems like a pretty solid consensus on replacing the chain. I tend to ride faster than the guy in the vid so feel mine snapping would be worse than that.


I'll get one ordered in the week, thanks everyone.