(19-01-16, 10:41 PM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: If it was just a case of not going into gear smooth like from neutral to 2nd then that can happen due to poorly adjusted chain, worn gear lever. Or it could be as it was in my case the clutch basket was worn enough so that the friction plates weren't releasing and causing drag.

But the fact its happening from 2 to 3rd and that fact that its not selecting a gear at all means, could possibly you have either bent or very worn selector fork, or a very worn selector drum. and both of those are an engine split to fix. If its a broken return spring, I think Ive read there are outside the main crackcase and can be replaced easily enough. But who ever sold you the bike was CLEARLY fucking aware of the fault prior to selling it to you. I know this, because this has also happened to me.

Take the bike back to where ever or who ever you bought it from and demand in no uncertain terms a full refund, if they give you any lip state you will then include all costs incurred to date (travel to collect the bike, etc etc) to the refund price.

(19-01-16, 11:13 PM)Neo link Wrote:

• I didn't do a deal with this man I bought the bike it was the one on here for sale by wooderson in the for sale section stupidly I didn't ride it before I forked over the money
  
• but will ride it again tomorrow just to be sure and check chain line and adjustment although I did look briefly today and it looked fine to me
  

• When a fault as serious as this presents itself, the fault falls squarely on the seller.
  
• I would recommend that you don't, if something in the gearbox comes loose then locks up while your riding etc. Contact the police and get a reference number, then recover the bike back to where it was bought from (bring a mate to act as a witness) and inform the seller they had better have your cash waiting.
  

(19-01-16, 11:13 PM)Neo link Wrote: I didn't do a deal with this man I bought the bike it was the one on here for sale by wooderson in the for sale section stupidly I didn't ride it before I forked over the money but will ride it again tomorrow just to be sure and check chain line and adjustment although I did look briefly today and it looked fine to me

(19-01-16, 11:34 PM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: [quote author=Neo link=topic=19167.msg221962#msg221962 date=1453241589]

• I didn't do a deal with this man I bought the bike it was the one on here for sale by wooderson in the for sale section stupidly I didn't ride it before I forked over the money
  
• but will ride it again tomorrow just to be sure and check chain line and adjustment although I did look briefly today and it looked fine to me
  

• When a fault as serious as this presents itself, the fault falls squarely on the seller.
  
• I would recommend that you don't, if something in the gearbox comes loose then locks up while your riding etc. Contact the police and get a reference number, then recover the bike back to where it was bought from (bring a mate to act as a witness) and get your cash back.
  

(19-01-16, 11:40 PM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: Was it a private sale or from a business..? Im currently googling consumer rights and private sales.  I am fairly certain that because the fault is serious enough that it could have potentially killed you,  that you unequivocally entitled to a full refund and the police need to be made aware.

Another thing that springs to mind is the bike is not fit for purpose, due to a faulty gearbox. Also quoting the Consumer act -

"The vehicle must match the seller’s description, be roadworthy"

Clearly it dosen't, as the seller never mentioned the gearbox issue and as your not a trained mechanic you cannot be expected to spot such a serious fault, even less so as it dosen't happen all the time. So more info that seem relevant -

- http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/problem/the-second-hand--car-i-bought-has-a-problem-what-are-my-rights

(20-01-16, 10:48 AM)limax2 link Wrote: Might be worth trying to select the gears by hand with the bike on the centre stand and turning the back wheel by hand, with the engine stopped of course.
When I say turning the back wheel I only mean rocking it backward and forward to move the gears so they can engage when you get full pedal movement, not trying to turn the engine.
If third engages engages every time that way then you might need to adjust the gear lever position to suit your own foot position. It's a long shot but if the seller is telling the truth it might sort it for you.
I have found just wearing some different boots can affect how the gear change feels.
Worth a try and if it still fails to engage gear you can demonstrate it to the seller.

(20-01-16, 03:18 PM)Neo link Wrote: UPDATE ... Just been out for an hour with trainers on eeek... But I could feel the heat change better  and all gears now work fine (embarrassed) not sure why it did it yesterday... Must be boots in a certain position insipid I did fettle with the chain and linkages and whilst sometimes the gear lever seems stiff coming back down through the box it's bearable so looks like it was operator error in this case which is good as I love the bike it's brill around town easy to go to 20 in top then pull away and nice and balanced plenty of poke God knows why you'd want more !! I'll keep you all posted with progression but all seems well so thanks for all your advice on here you all top people