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Clutch adjusting nut - darrsi - 01-11-15
I went to properly adjust my clutch cable earlier, at both ends, but the clutch adjusting nut rounded off even though i only nipped it up when i last fitted a new cable, and i was using a socket to loosen it. :groan
Because of the deep positioning of it, inside the clutch cover, i don't quite know how i can remove it, and it needs doing as the adjuster at the top end only hasa few threads left on it.
Anyone got any bright ideas how i can sensibly remove it?
I'll obviously have to get a new one to replace it with.
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - sinto607276 - 01-11-15
You say you've rounded it off? Do you know to what extent, have you got a pic or two of it? Maybe give us a better idea.
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - anutz - 01-11-15
i have no idea but am watching with interest....
, as i am 99% sure i could do this when i try!
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - darrsi - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 07:08 PM)sinto link Wrote: You say you've rounded it off? Do you know to what extent, have you got a pic or two of it? Maybe give us a better idea.
12mm socket slips on a 12mm nut, simple as that really.
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - anutz - 01-11-15
left hand drill bit and some screw extractors...
OR can you get at it from the other side i.e. the shaft and twist that?
Or can you get some needle nose pliers in there with some rubber for grip?
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - darrsi - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 07:31 PM)anutz link Wrote: left hand drill bit and some screw extractors...
OR can you get at it from the other side i.e. the shaft and twist that?
Or can you get some needle nose pliers in there with some rubber for grip?
Can't use a drill, it's the outer 12mm nut i want off, not the inner adjuster screw.
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - anutz - 01-11-15
ok i need to educate myself on this bit of the bike, i had never even taken that little cap off!
are they expensive???
hmmm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-98-03-front-sprocket-cover-casing-clutch-actuator-99-00-01-/281827759682?hash=item419e3e5642:g:FzYAAOSwAYtWHiOF
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - sinto607276 - 01-11-15
Put the 12mm (or even a bigger one) then going down the centre of the socket put a flat screw driver down the side of nut to jam the socket, but instead of using the socket wrench to remove, a pair of mole grips or decent pliers should be enough to loosen the nut.
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - Val - 01-11-15
the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-394001/dp/B0000CCXVZ
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - sinto607276 - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 07:57 PM)Val link Wrote: the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:They'd need to be long reach ones to get at the nut.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-Expansion/dp/B000QW6K8I
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - celticdog - 01-11-15
7/16 or 15/32 AF imperial socket should fit over a rounded 12mm nut with a bit of gentle persuasion (hammer!) depending on how rounded it is. Get the type with 6 sides, not the one with 12 corners . . . good luck with it!
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - darrsi - 01-11-15
Just ordered a replacement version of the nut, so hopefully it won't be made of cheese like this one, from ATV Parts UK.
Original Yamaha number is 901790817900
Replacement nut is coded 214163440000
£5.01 delivered.
Apparently it's a "special shaped" nut, otherwise i would've used a stainless one from work.
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - sinto607276 - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 07:38 PM)anutz link Wrote: ok i need to educate myself on this bit of the bike, i had never even taken that little cap off!You just prize it off with a flat screwdriver, then you'll see what we're talking about.
(01-11-15, 07:38 PM)anutz link Wrote: are they expensive???Not really, there's no liquid behind the actual plate, if you just unscrew it off I'm sure you'll find most of the gunk that's came off the chain etc.
You sure you've not had this off when you were doing your front sprocket? As that's what's behind it :b
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - Val - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 07:58 PM)sinto link Wrote: [quote author=Val link=topic=18632.msg214707#msg214707 date=1446404231]They'd need to be long reach ones to get at the nut.
the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-394001/dp/B0000CCXVZ
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They are sockets and will get there fine and its only tool that bites into the nut when you untighten it, irwin grip sockets are the best for removing any stuck nuts/bolts.
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - darrsi - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 07:38 PM)anutz link Wrote: ok i need to educate myself on this bit of the bike, i had never even taken that little cap off!
are they expensive???
hmmm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-98-03-front-sprocket-cover-casing-clutch-actuator-99-00-01-/281827759682?hash=item419e3e5642:g:FzYAAOSwAYtWHiOF
You need to read this, it's a very worthwhile thing to do.
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - sinto607276 - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 08:06 PM)Val link Wrote: [quote author=sinto link=topic=18632.msg214708#msg214708 date=1446404329]They'd need to be long reach ones to get at the nut.
[quote author=Val link=topic=18632.msg214707#msg214707 date=1446404231]
the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-394001/dp/B0000CCXVZ
[/quote]
They are sockets and will get there fine and its only tool that bites into the nut when you untighten it, irwin grip sockets are the best for removing any stuck nuts/bolts.
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You won't be able to put anything into the square bit at the back of those sockets to give you leverage due to the clutch adjusting screw that the nut goes over, that's why I said you need long reach ones.
I do agree they're good but not for that bolt.
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - darrsi - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 07:57 PM)Val link Wrote: the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-394001/dp/B0000CCXVZ
Maybe they might have something like this at my work?
No point in me buying them, i may as well just buy another sprocket cover for the same money!
Wonder why there's an 18 years old age limit on them?
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - anutz - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 08:10 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=anutz link=topic=18632.msg214704#msg214704 date=1446403118]
ok i need to educate myself on this bit of the bike, i had never even taken that little cap off!
are they expensive???
hmmm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-98-03-front-sprocket-cover-casing-clutch-actuator-99-00-01-/281827759682?hash=item419e3e5642:g:FzYAAOSwAYtWHiOF
You need to read this, it's a very worthwhile thing to do.
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I am watching.....and waiting..... :b ....only kidding
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - celticdog - 01-11-15
You've nothing to loose (except £24) :lol Get it off the bike and into a vice and take a hammer to it!
Or . . .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Multi-fit-socket-7mm-to-19mm-damaged-nut-removal-3-8-drive/361305783211?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3Da9bafaaa89dd49bd99aa17bdca7e0f3f%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D20%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D201312094629
Re: Clutch adjusting nut - darrsi - 01-11-15
(01-11-15, 08:37 PM)celticdog link Wrote: You've nothing to loose (except £24) :lol Get it off the bike and into a vice and take a hammer to it!
Or . . .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Multi-fit-socket-7mm-to-19mm-damaged-nut-removal-3-8-drive/361305783211?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3Da9bafaaa89dd49bd99aa17bdca7e0f3f%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D20%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D201312094629
Was thinking about that gadget earlier.
They're 24mm in diameter though,not sure if itwould fit in the gap without measuring it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n7j43AoKeg