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Directional indicator location - joebloggs - 13-09-15
According to the MOT manual directional indicators on a motorcycle can be placed anywhere on a motorcycle providing they are on either side of the center line and not obscured.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAAahUKEwjOxs2v4vTHAhUBNhoKHRUhBLk&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motuk.co.uk%2Fmcmanual_150.htm&usg=AFQjCNELBujHGVaNKXT218MxnhsLvqa_sQ&sig2=ZT-hztV1JJd1EuJRcnjtGA
Do you think I could get away with mounting them back to back (bottom together) just below the bottom yoke. I know they wouldn't give anyone an clue to which way I was turning but thats what God gave us arms for.......
Re: Directional indicator location - BBROWN1664 - 13-09-15
Many bikes have the rear ones either side of the back light so under the bottom yoke in line with the forks on each side would be OK but between the forks might be taking the piss
Re: Directional indicator location - joebloggs - 13-09-15
Taking the piss maybe but legal according to the MOT manual. Maybe worth mocking it up and taking a picture/video to local cop shop, see what they think
Re: Directional indicator location - chaz - 13-09-15
Was talking to a guy today and he was saying that the police can do you for riding with only one hand on the bars i.e. when you're in a 30mph zone and "having a rest" one hand on throttle and other on your leg/tank etc. I said when I took my test you had to use hand signals, so you had to ride one handed, any one heard of this?
Re: Directional indicator location - joebloggs - 13-09-15
(13-09-15, 09:51 PM)chaz link Wrote: Was talking to a guy today and he was saying that the police can do you for riding with only one hand on the bars i.e. when you're in a 30mph zone and "having a rest" one hand on throttle and other on your leg/tank etc. I said when I took my test you had to use hand signals, so you had to ride one handed, any one heard of this?Lot of hearsay out there although I suppose they could argue you didn't have just reason to have your hands off your bars unlike when signaling, moving visor etc.
Edit.... I was thinking of them throwing undue care at the rider
Re: Directional indicator location - Grahamm - 13-09-15
(13-09-15, 09:51 PM)chaz link Wrote: Was talking to a guy today and he was saying that the police can do you for riding with only one hand on the bars
Sounds like nonsense to me. What about those bikers who have lost an arm and had their bike modded with thumb brakes etc?
Re: Directional indicator location - stevierst - 13-09-15
They can 'do you' for not being in proper control of your vehicle. But it's highly unlikely they will unless you give them a reason to.
If you've got one arm, then it's pretty obvious that you 'cant' put two hands on the bars!!!
Re: Directional indicator location - joebloggs - 14-09-15
I got into a friggin heart stopping tankslapper riding with one hand on the bars. Had a friend alongside trying to comunicate when my front wheel dropped into a dip in the road, all my weight on one bar turned the wheel full lock (think extreme counter steering) Dam bars smashed my thumbs into the tank and at one point I was so far out of control I could see my front wheel almost side on. Still can't understand why I didn't crash but some how the bike straightened its self up and I stopped for a fag
Re: Directional indicator location - sinto607276 - 14-09-15
(13-09-15, 11:20 PM)stevierst link Wrote: They can 'do you' for not being in proper control of your vehicle. But it's highly unlikely they will unless you give them a reason to.I'm guessing then, I could do a wheelie as I'd be in control of my vehicle? :rollin :rollin
Re: Directional indicator location - stevierst - 14-09-15
Yeah, but then you'd be riding without due care and attention.
:o
There's no winning sometimes:
Re: Directional indicator location - darrsi - 14-09-15
Dunno why you'd want to make things more unclear for other drivers, i much prefer to be seen rather than confuse them with a flashing light in the middle of the bike.
Re: Directional indicator location - sinto607276 - 14-09-15
(14-09-15, 03:31 AM)stevierst link Wrote: Yeah, but then you'd be riding without due care and attention.Dam :bobby they're no fun nowadays :lol
:o
There's no winning sometimes:
Re: Directional indicator location - sinto607276 - 14-09-15
(14-09-15, 06:22 AM)darrsi link Wrote: Dunno why you'd want to make things more unclear for other drivers, i much prefer to be seen rather than confuse them with a flashing light in the middle of the bike.:agree
The more you can get seen the better.
Re: Directional indicator location - Fazerider - 14-09-15
(14-09-15, 06:22 AM)darrsi link Wrote: Dunno why you'd want to make things more unclear for other drivers, i much prefer to be seen rather than confuse them with a flashing light in the middle of the bike.:agree
The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 states that the minimum separation for front indicators is 300mm and each must be at least 100mm away from a dipped headlight or foglight.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/schedule/7/made
Re: Directional indicator location - sinto607276 - 14-09-15
(14-09-15, 07:45 AM)Fazerider link Wrote: The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 states that the minimum separation for front indicators is 300mm and each must be at least 100mm away from a dipped headlight or foglight.
That must be just about the size the fairing is? (without going to check)
Re: Directional indicator location - joebloggs - 14-09-15
(14-09-15, 07:45 AM)Fazerider link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=18232.msg210170#msg210170 date=1442208175]:agree
Dunno why you'd want to make things more unclear for other drivers, i much prefer to be seen rather than confuse them with a flashing light in the middle of the bike.
If I could get away with them fixed under the yoke or similar I just wouldn't use them for that reason, most of my bikes never had them and tbh I don't think we really need them (nobody see's them unless you accidently leave one on, then at the next junction the car will pull straight out in front of you.
The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 states that the minimum separation for front indicators is 300mm and each must be at least 100mm away from a dipped headlight or foglight.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/schedule/7/made
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(14-09-15, 07:39 AM)sinto link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=18232.msg210170#msg210170 date=1442208175]As above re visability
Dunno why you'd want to make things more unclear for other drivers, i much prefer to be seen rather than confuse them with a flashing light in the middle of the bike.
Lots of conflicting info out there
One Northern Biker site states that you still don't require them .......
:agree
The more you can get seen the better.
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(14-09-15, 06:22 AM)darrsi link Wrote: Dunno why you'd want to make things more unclear for other drivers, i much prefer to be seen rather than confuse them with a flashing light in the middle of the bike.A sam brownie belt would make you more visible but would you really want to wear one
Re: Directional indicator location - sinto607276 - 14-09-15
(14-09-15, 09:18 AM)joebloggs link Wrote: A sam brownie belt would make you more visible but would you really want to wear oneSo would a flashing beacon but again, would you want to put that on?
Re: Directional indicator location - joebloggs - 14-09-15
Hmmmmmmmm 300mm separation and 100mm from the nearest lamp.......
So that'll be one under the bottom yoke and one tucked in around the carb area.....well it didn't say where they have to be in relation to each other lol
Re: Directional indicator location - joebloggs - 14-09-15
Seriously though, motorcycling is supposed to be about fun and being a little different from the car driving masses, OK so you need to be a little more cautious when you've made your bike less visible (in certain situations) although thats not a bad thing
In the days before ANPR and speed cameras a friend of mine
ran an old school Katana and it was barely legal, only road tax and MOT it had came with the bike (he had it 5 years) the rear brake used to seize up all the time (lack of use) so he removed the pistons, if the old bill tried to stop him he'd just foc off.You may see that as reckless, and your welcome to your own opinion, but to him it was just a bit of fun and nobody got hurt (possibly a few old bills ego's)
Re: Directional indicator location - sinto607276 - 14-09-15
Surely you can ride a bike legally and still have fun?