+- Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial (https://foc-u.co.uk/mybb)
+-- Forum: Bikes, Hints'n'Tips (https://foc-u.co.uk/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=66)
+--- Forum: FZS600 Fazer (https://foc-u.co.uk/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=78)
+--- Thread: Braided Lines... (/showthread.php?tid=72476)
Braided Lines... - anutz - 09-05-15
I don't understand something...
Braided line packs such as this - which im looking at....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wezmoto-Stainless-Steel-Braided-Hoses-Kit-Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-1998-2003-/141086727834?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20d96c9e9a#ht_3212wt_1214
Why is there only 2 front lines....
It seems like you only use braided lines from the junction to the calipers - do you not use braied lines from the cylinder to the "T"
I though the whole point was to remove any give or play in the rubber hoses so why not have a braided line from the master cylinder as well...?
Might be missing something here?
Anutz!
Re: Braided Lines... - fazersharp - 09-05-15
Go for the HEL ones direct from Hel as you will get a discount from being on this forum
Do you see that long bolt next to the washers -- it is a double banjo bolt to hold two banjo ends at the master cylinder (leaver) and then each of the two lines gos to each caliper, left and right and you then do away with the bridging bar under the yokes, so no orig rubber will be left
The origional system is a 3 line one, at the front
Re: Braided Lines... - sinto607276 - 09-05-15
£89.99 for HEL lines, how much discount do they give for forum members?
Re: Braided Lines... - anutz - 09-05-15
thanks fazer# - that makes sense
as sinto said - any idea of discount?
Re: Braided Lines... - anutz - 09-05-15
i have contacted them from their web site so will let you know what the cost of front and rear lines is as well as discount..
Re: Braided Lines... - fazersharp - 09-05-15
Sorry cant remember - search hel lines on this forum and you should find it
Re: Braided Lines... - sinto607276 - 09-05-15
What's wrong with your lines anyway anutz? Surely your not a harsh braking sort of guy, that's the only way I'd get replacement lines if my braking was harsh, but it's not as I tend to use the roadcraft system of riding.(advanced riding for those reading this and saying....what the foc is that?)
Re: Braided Lines... - anutz - 09-05-15
not really upgrading cos i need to but as i figured its more reliable than the hoses i have on - they have been on since new so 14 years old....
depending on price i may buy some but we shall see...and i won't lie they look nice!!!! :lol :lol
agreed on the riding front - i ride only as far as i can see or if i know the road well as far as i know
Re: Braided Lines... - sinto607276 - 10-05-15
(09-05-15, 11:56 PM)anutz link Wrote: not really upgrading cos i need to but as i figured its more reliable than the hoses i have on - they have been on since new so 14 years old....Mines are 17 years old and look good and tidy to me, 24000miles but granted you never know how much they're stretching under pressure.
(09-05-15, 11:56 PM)anutz link Wrote: depending on price i may buy some but we shall see...and i won't lie they look nice!!!! :lol :lolYes they do look nice and you would deffinetly feel a difference I'm sure
(09-05-15, 11:56 PM)anutz link Wrote: agreed on the riding front - i ride only as far as i can see or if i know the road well as far as i knowI rode on a road today that I know very well, went round a bend that I know even better and a bloody tourist had stopped to look at the foccin view! There has never been any tourist there before, why would I think they'd be one there today?
Just dont stop thinking to expect the unexpected
Re: Braided Lines... - fazersharp - 10-05-15
(09-05-15, 11:56 PM)anutz link Wrote: not really upgrading cos i need to but as i figured its more reliable than the hoses i have on - they have been on since new so 14 years old....
Yup thats it - if you are replacing old fluid and as anutz is doing spending some money on new pistons and seals whats the point in keeping 17 year old rubber hoses
Easy two finger braking now ------------- leaving two fingers spare for hand signals :moon
Re: Braided Lines... - anutz - 10-05-15
you know how you can flush and clean a radiator.....do you ever do anything like that with the master cylinder and new lines?
Re: Braided Lines... - darrsi - 10-05-15
(10-05-15, 11:04 AM)anutz link Wrote: you know how you can flush and clean a radiator.....do you ever do anything like that with the master cylinder and new lines?
No need, radiators are flushed because of hardened water deposits scaling up the waterways restricting the flow, that wouldn't happen with brake fluid.
Brake fluid can get cooked though and lose its qualities, if calipers are seized for instance and there's constant rubbing of pads on the discs creating a lot of heat.
Re: Braided Lines... - fazersharp - 10-05-15
Just the act of bleeding them is a little flush isnt it
Re: Braided Lines... - darrsi - 10-05-15
(10-05-15, 11:13 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: Just the act of bleeding them is a little flush isnt it
I'll get your coat......
Re: Braided Lines... - darrsi - 10-05-15
(10-05-15, 11:15 AM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=16907.msg194936#msg194936 date=1431252835]
Just the act of bleeding them is a little flush isnt it
I'll get your coat......
[/quote]
Sorry, i though you were making a joke, but you weren't were you. :lol
Yes, you're right it is the equivalent of a flush of sorts, it shouldn't leave any harmful residue or deposits at all.
Re: Braided Lines... - anutz - 10-05-15
ok thanks
Re: Braided Lines... - Punkstig - 10-05-15
Best not make any comments about wezmoto or the forum will get shutdown!
Re: Braided Lines... - anutz - 10-05-15
? wot
Re: Braided Lines... - sinto607276 - 10-05-15
(10-05-15, 12:13 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: Yup thats it - if you are replacing old fluid and as anutz is doing spending some money on new pistons and seals whats the point in keeping 17 year old rubber hoses
Yeah I know he is and doing a dam good job
I was mearly saying that brake pipes can last if your not harsh braking all the time, I'm sure they've been manufactured to a high standard and would do most requirements but as you say, if your replacing loads of other stuff, why scrimp on new hoses. If i was striping down my bike as much as anutz has, I'd be looking to probably doing the same. But as I'm not and find my brake system good for me and my style of riding, I'll leave as is for the moment.
I also tend to do a lot of what anutz is doing during the winter months when there's less chance I'd want to use the bike, granted, some things are thrust upon us at a time that's not convenient
