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Dodgy side stand switch? - Brettholmes89 - 24-04-15
After ordering my new speed sensor and being over the moon, I go to tesco this morning, get some cash out, then get back on my bike, side stand up, clutch in, killswitch in the right position, press the button and nothing. Oil light and fuel light come on?
Full tank of fuel, oil level is normal.
Any ideas?
Not sure if it's the side stand switch that's going or what? The switch is going in and out with the stand.
Cheers guys
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - andybesy - 24-04-15
What about in neutral?
Dodgy side stand switch? - Brettholmes89 - 24-04-15
Sorry forgot to mention it was also in neutral.
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - Brettholmes89 - 24-04-15
It's just done it again, came out of work, started up, stopped just outside to lock the gate, didn't start, checked the killswitch, neutral, side stand up. Oil light and fuel light!!
I messed with the side stand switch, turned the ignition on and off a couple of times, clutch in and out and it eventually started up, just don't want to have to do that every time. I had to bump it this morning!
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - crickleymal - 24-04-15
Trace the wires from the switch. Eventually they'll reach a plug. Using a paperclip short out the wires to the switch. See if that makes a difference.
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - slappy - 24-04-15
Are you sure its the sidestand switch and not a faulty ignition switch?
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - sinto607276 - 24-04-15
(24-04-15, 09:40 PM)slappy link Wrote: Are you sure its the sidestand switch and not a faulty ignition switch?If it was ignition switch would you be be getting the lights in dash working, neutral, oil, fuel etc? Just asking.
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - Brettholmes89 - 24-04-15
I suppose I ruled the starter switch out because the switch does make the lights come on, the same way it would if you were to try starting it with the stand down.
I'll try tracing the wires back tomorrow. To be honest I'd rather not have a side stand switch , I always kick it up before I start the engine anyway!
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - sinto607276 - 24-04-15
Could it possibly be just full of gunk etc? Electrical cleaner would help?
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - slappy - 25-04-15
I suggested the igntion switch because the problem he is describing are exactly the same as I was having on my gen1 1000. After I spent days checking ,cleaning every connector I could find someone told me to flush out the ignition switch with wd40 and the problem disappeared.
Eventually six months later I had to replace the ignition switch as it was that worn out and no amount of flushing and cleaning helped.
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - Jules-C - 25-04-15
If it was the sidestand switch it wouldn't bump start because the ignition unit would cut out if it thinks the sidestand was done and the bike in gear.
My first move would be to clean all the switches and connectors with wd40 or similar and while connectors apart check switchs working with meter
Dodgy side stand switch? - Brettholmes89 - 25-04-15
I tried electrical cleaner first off. Slappy, glad I'm not the only one. I will try wd40 on the ignition. By ignition are you meaning the barrel or the start switch? Just want to make sure haha.
Thanks for the help everyone I will update when I know more!
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - slappy - 25-04-15
The barrel, just put loads of wd40 or something similiar in.
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - Brettholmes89 - 25-04-15
Great, will do that tomorrow. Cheers!
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - Brettholmes89 - 28-04-15
Well it's not the ignition switch.
Could it be the clutch switch?its starting to really annoy me now because it's taking 5 minutes before I can start the engine unless I bump it.
Then I don't want to stop in case it doesn't go again!
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - Alexander - 28-04-15
not exactly the same but I had a similar problem,
had to modify my clutch switch when i changed to shorty levers as it wouldn't let it start in gear with the clutch in as pulling the clutch lever in didn't let the switch out.
disconnect the clutch switch and see if makes a different.
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - Brettholmes89 - 28-04-15
If I disconnect the clutch switch will it just act as though it's not there or will it need bridging?
I will try it tomorrow
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - Jules-C - 29-04-15
Not checked the wiring diagram but I would expect it to need bridging most cut out devices are set up if the come unplugged the bike won't start
Re: Dodgy side stand switch? - darrsi - 29-04-15
(24-04-15, 10:16 PM)Brettholmes89 link Wrote: I suppose I ruled the starter switch out because the switch does make the lights come on, the same way it would if you were to try starting it with the stand down.
I'll try tracing the wires back tomorrow. To be honest I'd rather not have a side stand switch , I always kick it up before I start the engine anyway!
"... I always kick it up before I start the engine anyway!..."
Famous last words!!!
Trust me, you need the side stand switch, it's a safety function and there for a very good reason.
Dodgy side stand switch? - Brettholmes89 - 29-04-15
Tighter spring so when the bikes lifted upright it shoots back in?