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r1 fork mod - fazed out - 14-04-15
I got myself 5pw forks. what years can i use for the yolks there seems to be very little 98-03 only later one's about .also is anyone making the spacer sets ? i did look at the billet yolks lead time june
Re: r1 fork mod - Falcon 269 - 14-04-15
Devilsyam will be along to assist you shortly
Meanwhile, Search is your friend (use R1 Fork Mod as search phrase) and you can also read lots here:
http://fazer1000.yuku.com/topic/3408/R1-Fork-Conversion-Guide
Re: r1 fork mod - Stupid Luke - 14-04-15
(14-04-15, 02:03 PM)Falcon 269 link Wrote: Devilsyam will be along to assist you shortly
Meanwhile, Search is your friend (use R1 Fork Mod as search phrase) and you can also read lots here:
http://fazer1000.yuku.com/topic/3408/R1-Fork-Conversion-Guide
Dont hold your breath though, I posted a similar thread a few weeks back and got a single reply. :z
Did you win the 5pw forks on that were on ebay last week? I was going to bid on those but forgot until the auction had ended. Had I wone them I would probably have gone with the billet yokes, despite the wait. The reason being it seems to be a complete plug and play solution with only one company to speak to if there is a problem.
Otherwise, you might save yourself 100 quid with a secong hand FZ1 top yoke (scarce and expensive) a R1 (some say FZ1 who knows?) botton yoke and a used, machined, chopped about steering stem or an aftermarket copy that some american guy may or may not be making any more. Then you may or may not need a justy spacer (whatever that is) and will likely run into other problems as none of the threads on here are conclusive.
Even members that have just had this work done (Nick Crisp) or just done it, presumably for profit, (Devilsyam) dont seem to want to share any info that would enable anyone else to buy bits with any sort of certainty.
Re: r1 fork mod - sadlonelygit - 14-04-15
Can you manage to wipe your own arse without supervision.
There is no one solution to how to fit the bottom yoke.
you can machine the stem and yoke and make a spacer to compensate.
you can pin it in place with a rolling and bearing.
You can fill it with Devcon and pin it.
A justy spacer is to space the top yoke away from the top bearing locknuts and shim out the stem as the R1 has a different diameter stem to the fazer. The dimensions are out there on the Internet.
There are several people who have fitted an R1 front end who have taken the time to inform us how they did it (with pictures). So do some research and stop whining like a bitch!
Re: r1 fork mod - devilsyam - 14-04-15
Shopping list
2003 fork best of the bunch
Gen2 yokes or fz8 top 2008/9 r1 bottom will work
Never done a 98 early type as personally don't see point fitting older forks
I must answer 10 questions a week relating to r1 and r6 bits sorry if you feel I'm just for profit
Re: r1 fork mod - Stupid Luke - 14-04-15
(14-04-15, 10:42 PM)sadlonelygit link Wrote: Can you manage to wipe your own arse without supervision.
Fortunately I can or I would have been sitting here with a dirty arse for the last month waiting for instruction.
Then, as you suggest, when I did some research I find that one forum member wiped his arse with Andrex, when another insists Wet Wipes are essential. Then another recommends front to back, yet others prefer the flossing technique and some prefer to do handstands in the shower.
Thus it is with engineering. The rest of your post may as well be writting in Lithuanian to me but I gather you are saying there are many ways to get the job done. If you had read my post I was saying that researching this mod on here brings exactly the same information. If you have an engineering background or are willing to buy loads of bits that may, or may not, be made to fit then you can probably get the job done. There is nothing conclusive though and when I try to ask a definative question it gets ignored.
Not all of us have an engineering background, some of us want to be sure we are buying what we need so that the machine shop we end up selecting at random wont throw the lot back at us and claim it cant be done.
My personal view is that if the billet yokes are a simple solution then, for those of us that were having extra arse wiping lessons when you were doing engineering, they are probably worth an extra 100 quid and saving of a load of greif gathering bits that may, perhaps be cobbled together.
Are the billet yokes a simple solution though? I have no fucking idea as everyone ignored my post last month.
Re: r1 fork mod - slimwilly - 15-04-15
Haha, the uninformed :lol :lol :lol
I have people who fit their own boilers,! easy ent it" then they ring me and say it wont work properly
,, in all jobsm knowledge is a first,,Now with bikes,,passing on bits of information,,parts list seems ok,good for others,,but,,yes there has to be a but,,,What happens when it does not fit,,or goes wrong? who's up for it then,,,,the engineers at work on their own jobs will sort their own problems,,,,will they get the blame for trying to help others?
I often ask for help,sizes etc fully knowing i am still on a learning curve on every job.
So please don,t moan at being ignored by the few very knowledgeable folks on here,,they could be busy,or the questions may have to many different answers, we dont want to piss off the guru's,, we need them.
Re: r1 fork mod - keithfzs1000 - 15-04-15
http://fazer1000.yuku.com/topic/3408/R1-Fork-Conversion-Guide?hc_location=ufi#.VS4HfpPv7Yh
did mine that way with a 5jj set now have a billet top yoke on due to clcok change still have R1 top yoke if you want it £25 posted as it needs a polish or paint not got the bottom though
Re: r1 fork mod - fazed out - 15-04-15
Thanks luke for info i have 03 forks maybe i'm lucky on that score . I have looked at the differant yolks. man there are expensive with all the parts & hassle i think best is to buy billet yolks thanks for imput . i'm from a metal fabrication background
Re: r1 fork mod - devilsyam - 15-04-15
I used custom yokes on my first and yep ok but never looked factory
The gen 2 option has all the upsides and looks factory personal choice
Re: r1 fork mod - Stupid Luke - 15-04-15
Does anyone know of any custom yoke manufacturers other than Billet Bike Bits that advertise on ebay?
Those billet sets look good but they are more for a streetfighter where they are likely to be seen. Given that ours are likely to be hidden by the fairing I would be happy with a slighty less blingy set for a little less money.
Re: r1 fork mod - devilsyam - 15-04-15
As per your post I can tell you but it will cost ya
Re: r1 fork mod - Stupid Luke - 15-04-15
(15-04-15, 10:26 AM)devilsyam link Wrote: As per your post I can tell you but it will cost ya
I have no problem with anyone making a living. If you can source billet yokes cheaper than the ones on ebay or supply a set of Gen 2 yokes with Gen 1 stem fitted and ready to go then you make a margin on the job, I dont have the worry of buying the wrong bits or ending up with something that doesnt fit, that is a win/win for both of us.
It may be that fazed out or others on here would be interested too.
Re: r1 fork mod - fazed out - 15-04-15
(15-04-15, 10:26 AM)devilsyam link Wrote: As per your post I can tell you but it will cost yaenlighten me luke on alternate billet yolks ? gen 2 impossible to find...... ps i love the shock mod r6 i had of you
Re: r1 fork mod - Falcon 269 - 15-04-15
There's no really easy way of doing this as any of the routes you follow will require the Fazer steering stem to be grafted into the lower yoke from either an R1 or Gen 2 FZ1 or FZ8. The guide I linked to gives one way of doing this but there are others.
Fitting the Gen 1 stem into an R1 or FZ1/FZ8 lower yoke requires a spacer to resolve the difference in yoke thickness (top and lower) in order to get the bearing tracks in the correct position and enable the top yoke adjuster nuts and stem nut to fit. Again, my guide gives dimensions for the combination of parts I used on my bike.
One of the US FZ1OA members, Brian G, did come up with a very nicely made custom stem with dimensions specifically to fit a particular combination of R1/FZ1 yokes (details escape me) without the need for a spacer. Unfortunately, it was a limited production run and all were snapped up quickly at the time. You could try asking him for the drawings if you know an engineering shop which could machine one for you. Won't be cheap, though.
Modding an R1 top yoke to take Gen 1 bar clamps and bars is the cheapest way to go. Custom top yokes are pricey. Another option there is the LSL handlebar conversion for the R1. Match the LSL top yoke with the correct year of R1 lower yoke, do the stem transplant - with spacer - and you have a neat conversion. At a price.
http://www.motorcycle-road-and-race.co.uk/lsl-bar-conversion-kit-yamaha-yzf-r1-00-01
Devilsyam has years of experience doing all sorts with Fazers and has contacts to do the machining required. Naturally, his expertise and time deserve reward.
It would be great if there were one basic way of doing this very worthwhile mod with easy to follow instructions - but there ain't. Those of us who've done try our best to share what we did and how we did it. The information is out there for you to digest and act on but hand-holding isn't something that can be done via the internet.
Re: r1 fork mod - Stupid Luke - 15-04-15
Thanks Mike. I am not sure if I am mistaken but I believe the custom yokes on ebay (Billet Bike Bits) are top yoke and bottom yoke and a machined steering stem for the FZS as a complete unit for 430 quid plus postage. There is quite a wait for these but it seems the easiest solution all round.
I was hoping to get some feedback from someone that had actually gone this route as it seems (other than the price) thesimplest option. Any alternative that involves machining will leave me walking blind into some engineering place and hoping for the best.
There are other billet top yokes available from CNC that seem to be cheaper versions of the LSL one you link to but these still leave me with the problem of obtaining, bottom yoke, bearings and steering stem and getting them all fitted together correctly.
Re: r1 fork mod - Falcon 269 - 15-04-15
Ah, gotcha - I hadn't taken account of the custom yokes including the stem conversion as well. Makes sense, of course, when I engaged brain after the event. As is frequently the case :lol
I guess the simple solution is throw money in the direction of those who do this for a living.
Re: r1 fork mod - devilsyam - 15-04-15
I am working on a solution based on a new stem I have not been able to obtain the info needed so have to start from scratch - it will happen but maybe not to everyone's time scale
I do have other things on the go
And that's before I even get this r1 swinging arm in my own bike
Re: r1 fork mhttp://foc-u.co.uk/Themes/Crushing/images/bbc/hr.gifod - nickodemon - 15-04-15
I was one of the lucky ones to get the steering stem from the fz1 site. Brian g did a fine job. It was exactly the right size for the bearing i ordered from bike bearings.co.uk (thanks Mike
) I also purchased a second hand lsl r1 bar conversion top yoke from ebay (thanks again mike for the link ). I bought a 2002 - 2003 bottom yoke through ebay and used 2008 r1 forks wheel and calipers.. Simples :lol I think if you can get brian g to do another batch of steering stems, then that is the way to go.. It cost me $100 plus shipping, which worked out about £100..Unless Luke gets time to get them made 
Ps.. I'm sure the thread on fz1 site brian discusses the sizes and length required to make them
Re: r1 fork mod - devilsyam - 15-04-15
If I recall nick your combo you need either r1 wheels or different discs