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HGV warning - imax - 06-04-15
Just a quick heads up for those that may not be aware.
From today (6 April 2015) HGV's can now do 50mph on single carriageways and 60mph on dual carriageways. Be aware that a gap you may previously have pulled out in could be closing much faster than before.
Re: HGV warning - ChristoT - 06-04-15
(06-04-15, 05:47 PM)imax link Wrote: Just a quick heads up for those that may not be aware.
From today (6 April 2015) HGV's can now do 50mph on single carriageways and 60mph on dual carriageways. Be aware that a gap you may previously have pulled out in could be closing much faster than before.
Wait, what? I thought that was what they were ALREADY limited to? What were the old values?
Re: HGV warning - imax - 06-04-15
It was previously 40 and 50mph. The change in law is supposed to prevent drivers making dangerous overtakes out of frustration and also to reflect the advances in braking technology.
Re: HGV warning - ChristoT - 06-04-15
(06-04-15, 05:53 PM)imax link Wrote: It was previously 40 and 50mph. The change in law is supposed to prevent drivers making dangerous overtakes out of frustration and also to reflect the advances in braking technology.
Can't remember last seeing a lorry doing 50 on dual carriageways!
Good heads up though!
Re: HGV warning - locksmith - 06-04-15
Trucks have been limited to 50mph???????? Is that for real?
Re: HGV warning - richfzs - 06-04-15
That's what the new limits are - but given that all trucks for years now have had to have speed limiters fitted (under eu law, set to 56mph), the only place you'll find them doing 60 is on a down hill drag where they know they can let it run on...
Re: HGV warning - unfazed - 06-04-15
(06-04-15, 05:53 PM)imax link Wrote: It was previously 40 and 50mph. The change in law is supposed to prevent drivers making dangerous overtakes out of frustration and also to reflect the advances in braking technology.
Why don't they raise the limits for Bikes and cars by 10mph if this is the reasoning, strange logic :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
Re: HGV warning - chaz - 06-04-15
Vans have stayed the same 50mph on single carriageways 60mph on duel and 70mph on motorways, car based vans are the same as cars.
Re: HGV warning - sinto607276 - 06-04-15
(06-04-15, 05:47 PM)imax link Wrote: Just a quick heads up for those that may not be aware.
From today (6 April 2015) HGV's can now do 50mph on single carriageways and 60mph on dual carriageways. Be aware that a gap you may previously have pulled out in could be closing much faster than before.
Where did you get this info imax?
I drive trucks for a living and it's never been discussed by anyone of authority, only thing we know for sure is that hgv vehicles can now do 50mph on the A9 stretch from Stirling to Inverness as they have introduced average speed cameras, all be it, they were only meant to be doing 50mph on dual carriageways anyhow
And also on that point, I only do 40mph while in my truck on single carriageway carriageways and 50 on dual but there are plenty that pass me, not all of them safe, come to think of it, they are all breaking the law if they do pass me as I'm at correct speed. :-P
Re: HGV warning - chaz - 06-04-15
different in Scotland?
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
Re: HGV warning - richfzs - 06-04-15
(06-04-15, 09:20 PM)sinto607276 link Wrote: Where did you get this info imax?
sinto607276 it's here
https://movingon.blog.gov.uk/reminder-hgv-speed-limit-changes-in-england-and-wales/
Re: HGV warning - sinto607276 - 06-04-15
Looked into this.......https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
Law is different for us in Scotland, we still have to do 40 on single carriageways and 50 mph on dual carriageways, but in England and Wales the law has changed to 50mph and 60 mph respectfully.
So I bow my hat to you imax :-)
Re: HGV warning - taylor - 06-04-15
does that still mean I can still undertake in my van at 100. lol when they sit there eating yorkie bars, :rollin
Re: HGV warning - sinto607276 - 06-04-15
(06-04-15, 09:38 PM)taylor link Wrote: does that still mean I can still undertake in my van at 100. lol when they sit there eating yorkie bars, :rollinYes, but ONLY if they're eating Yorkie's!
I say that as I don't eat those lot
Re: HGV warning - taylor - 06-04-15
okay mate
will keep me eyes peeled,
Re: HGV warning - limax2 - 06-04-15
The new limits apply to HGV's in England and Wales. I was heavily involved in this when speed limiters were first made compulsory and were then initially set at 60 m.p.h. to be later reduced to 56 m.p.h. (90 kph). So now they can legally do 60 m.p.h. but at 56 m.p.h. the engine power is cut off unless the speed limiting device has been fiddled with. Result 56 on the level and taking ages to pass a similar truck, but yippee a legal 60 going down hill.
Re: HGV warning - sinto607276 - 06-04-15
(06-04-15, 05:56 PM)locksmith link Wrote: Trucks have been limited to 50mph???????? Is that for real?
Trucks are restricted!
Re: HGV warning - sinto607276 - 06-04-15
(06-04-15, 05:56 PM)locksmith link Wrote: Trucks have been limited to 50mph???????? Is that for real?
Trucks are restricted!
But it's not a uniform restriction, depends on company etc, our company for example restrict them to 54, Tesco owned, (not Stobbarts) I think are about 52 but the law says 60!
Unless your a tipper driver then apparently they are immune to the law! And even worse if you're truck has Irish plates on it!
Sorry, was that a dig???
Re: HGV warning - limax2 - 06-04-15
It is a EU ruling for speed limiters and is 90 Kph, which is near enough 56 mph. Operators can choose a lower limit for their truck if they wish but 60 mph setting for the limiter would be breaking the law.
Re: HGV warning - sinto607276 - 06-04-15
(06-04-15, 10:03 PM)limax2 link Wrote: It is a EU ruling for speed limiters and is 90 Kph, which is near enough 56 mph. Operators can choose a lower limit for their truck if they wish but 60 mph setting for the limiter would be breaking the law.So how come highway code and UK government say max speed for trucks is 60 on motorways and not 56?
It's not an EU ruling, it's a EU directive, meaning that's what they'd like the individual countries to aim for. It's much the same within my line of work, EU says one thing but UK law says another, I deliver dangerous goods and as long as we don't go outside of UK, we don't need to worry about the EU directives. It is a pain trying to remember all the foccin different rules though!