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grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - chaz - 22-09-14
Well the road tax is due on the MT, £44 for 6 months or £80 for the year. So that works out at 10% intrest if you pay it in 2 installments, erm no that would be the case if you got the tax now and paid for it in 12 months time, what you are doing is paying £44 now (borrowing £36 for 6 months) so now the rate has gone up to 44.5%, arr but there's the extra cost involved in.......... not printing two tax discs not posting two envelopes ........just an electronic transfer which costs about the same as a text does.
I think the rate should be £40 and £80 but then who would pay for the full year? I'm paying the full amount as I get about 1.5% on my savings.
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - BBROWN1664 - 22-09-14
I bought mine on Sunday morning online and thought 10% extra for the year was a bit steep. Instead I did a 6 month one so I could ride the bike and plan to go to the monthly payment once that runs out.
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - midden - 22-09-14
(22-09-14, 02:35 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: I bought mine on Sunday morning online and thought 10% extra for the year was a bit steep. Instead I did a 6 month one so I could ride the bike and plan to go to the monthly payment once that runs out.
:eek :think :think :think :think :think :eek
The 10% comes from buying 6months..
are they charging to do monthly instalments as well?
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - BBROWN1664 - 22-09-14
yes they will be charging for monthly payments but it is meant to be less than the 6 month increase and you don't need to remember to renew it every year as it keeps rolling on as long as you have MOT and insurance..
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - fazersharp - 22-09-14
(22-09-14, 02:26 PM)chaz link Wrote: Well the road tax is due on the MT, £44 for 6 months or £80 for the year. So that works out at 10% intrest if you pay it in 2 installments, erm no that would be the case if you got the tax now and paid for it in 12 months time, what you are doing is paying £44 now (borrowing £36 for 6 months) so now the rate has gone up to 44.5%, arr but there's the extra cost involved in.......... not printing two tax discs not posting two envelopes ........just an electronic transfer which costs about the same as a text does.
I think the rate should be £40 and £80 but then who would pay for the full year? I'm paying the full amount as I get about 1.5% on my savings.
Mate ---- you should be in number 11
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - JoeRock - 22-09-14
(22-09-14, 06:06 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=chaz link=topic=14791.msg167595#msg167595 date=1411392405]
Well the road tax is due on the MT, £44 for 6 months or £80 for the year. So that works out at 10% intrest if you pay it in 2 installments, erm no that would be the case if you got the tax now and paid for it in 12 months time, what you are doing is paying £44 now (borrowing £36 for 6 months) so now the rate has gone up to 44.5%, arr but there's the extra cost involved in.......... not printing two tax discs not posting two envelopes ........just an electronic transfer which costs about the same as a text does.
I think the rate should be £40 and £80 but then who would pay for the full year? I'm paying the full amount as I get about 1.5% on my savings.
Mate ---- you should be in number 11
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I have no idea where you're getting £36 from? It is a 10% increase if you pay it apart - it's either £80 or £88?
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - chaz - 22-09-14
Joerock............. if you tax it for 6 months you pay £44 now so you defer payment of the rest of the £80 for 6 months that = £36 you then pay another £44 so you have paid £8 extra to "borrow" £36 for 6 months, it's as clear as a foggy night?
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - darrsi - 22-09-14
If you can afford to own and ride a bike then you can afford to tax it.
Accountant perchance? :lol
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - Dead Eye - 22-09-14
I've never found motorcycle tax to be much of a problem... after a few years of paying tax on a carbon spewing car, it's certainly not of the same calibre
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - fazersharp - 23-09-14
Per mile my bike costs me more than doubble to tax than my car does due to the milage done on the bike, so I would prefer the tax to be on the fuel,but then you end up paying tax to cut your grass so that can of petrol is now a can of worms :z
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - Dave48 - 23-09-14
(23-09-14, 08:37 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: Per mile my bike costs me more than doubble to tax than my car does due to the milage done on the bike, so I would prefer the tax to be on the fuel,but then you end up paying tax to cut your grass so that can of petrol is now a can of worms :z
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - Dave48 - 23-09-14
Cage: 5 years old 1100cc VED £30 per annum Average mpg 55. Annual mileage 8000
Bike : 11 years old 600cc VED £58 " " " " 55 " " 3000
Surely the only fair way would be to tax vehicle use-the more you drive/ride the more you wear the road out! :lol This myth of "Road Tax" persists- its a vehicle tax since none of it is used to maintain the roads. The simplest way to achieve this would be extra duty on fuel-the more you drive-the more you pay. This in turn might encourage some drivers to rethink their car use-my own particular pet hate is the school run drivers who cause chaos around the local schools each weekday morning/afternoon in their whopping great kiddie carriers. Dont any kids walk anywhere anymore?
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - BBROWN1664 - 23-09-14
:agree
Add the duty to fuel. That way I would not have to pay when the vehicles are not being used. At the moment in my house we have the following:
My car - Used 4-5 times a week at the moment but paying £250 (ish) a year for tax so I can park it in the road.
My van - Used once a week on average but paying £250 (ish) a year for tax so I can park it in the road.
My bike - used once a month on average but paying £80 a year
Wifes car - used daily paying £200 ish a year
Sons car - Used fec all as he is at university but paying £250 (ish) a year for tax so I can park it in the road.
Sons bike - will probably get SORN when it runs out as he is away at Uni and we keep it off road.
Other years I will do 20,000 business miles and accept I would pay more for tax but the fairest way is to pay as you use. The government made a big thing about car tax being related to emissions. Fuel consumption is directly related too really. The more fuel you use, the more you pay.
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - midden - 23-09-14
At the end of the day it is down to the individual how many miles he/she does on a bike. Perhaps seasonal bikes used say below 2k miles a year should attract a enhanced 'luxury' tax.
As for the original post I tend to think of tax being 88 quid a yr and I get 10% multi buy purchase discount
Re: grumpy old man or DVLA taking the pi$$ - fazersharp - 23-09-14
(23-09-14, 10:53 AM)midden link Wrote: . Perhaps seasonal bikes used say below 2k miles a year should attract a enhanced 'luxury' tax.:nana