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Airbox help required - ChristoT - 16-06-14
More n00bishness from your favourite Fazer projecteer! :lol :lol
Any wheezes for getting the airbox back on the carbs? I eventually got the carbs onto the engine rubbers after a long fight yesterday, but am struggling like mad with the airbox rubbers. For a start, they don't seem to want to line up! Ideas?
I've already tried a thin smear of vaseline on the inside of the rubber, but that isn't helping much.
Thanks!
Re: Airbox help required - His Dudeness - 16-06-14
Have you loosened the screws all the way on the clamps?
Re: Airbox help required - ChristoT - 16-06-14
(16-06-14, 09:48 PM)His Dudeness link Wrote: Have you loosened the screws all the way on the clamps?
Yep, even slid them back to the airbox cover (they're loose enough to do so, and I wanted to give it all the help I could)
Re: Airbox help required - His Dudeness - 16-06-14
Could they be backwards? Have you got the wrong end in the airbox? Not sure if that's possible.
Re: Airbox help required - ChristoT - 16-06-14
(16-06-14, 09:52 PM)His Dudeness link Wrote: Could they be backwards? Have you got the wrong end in the airbox? Not sure if that's possible.
Definitely not possible - the front of the carb (engine end) is slightly smaller, and has a lip. The airbox end of the carbs is just a smooth intake. Also, the TPS plug and choke are on their correct respective sides.
And (I would like to think!) I'm not that much of a mug!
Re: Airbox help required - His Dudeness - 16-06-14
I meant the rubbers in the airbox being backwards not the carbs
Re: Airbox help required - ChristoT - 16-06-14
(16-06-14, 09:59 PM)His Dudeness link Wrote: I meant the rubbers in the airbox being backwards not the carbs
Erm...
How?
The only tampering I've done with the airbox is remove and reinstall the faceplate after my d'oh moment when I put the engine in sans airbox. I thought the airbox plate could only go on one way?
It looks right. I can get carb 4 onto rubber 4, but then carb 1 looks out of line. T'is bizarre.
Re: Airbox help required - Ruby Racing - 17-06-14
(16-06-14, 09:20 PM)ChristoT link Wrote: I've already tried a thin smear of vaseline on the inside of the rubber, but that isn't helping much.
Is Vaseline a good idea? It's a petroleum product and that breaks down rubber. That's why you don't use it with condoms. Unless you want babies!
Re: Airbox help required - ChristoT - 17-06-14
Ah.
It's only a thin smear, but I'll clean it off when I get home.
Condoms are latex, no?
Re: Airbox help required - JoeRock - 17-06-14
If you can christo, take them off, and stick them in a saucepan of very hot water. Sounds crazy, but they harden uo over the years and become pretty much solid - the hot water softens them and makes them nice and pliable again!
Re: Airbox help required - ChristoT - 17-06-14
(17-06-14, 01:44 PM)JoeRock link Wrote: If you can christo, take them off, and stick them in a saucepan of very hot water. Sounds crazy, but they harden uo over the years and become pretty much solid - the hot water softens them and makes them nice and pliable again!
Doesn't sound crazy at all, however they are already quite pliable - the buggers just refuse to line up!!
Re: Airbox help required - Mark YPVS - 17-06-14
Are the rubbers angled? take them off lay them on a flat surface and see if they all look the same, i know some 2 strokes have left and right carb/ airbox rubbers
Mark
Re: Airbox help required - Deefer666 - 17-06-14
Take the battery out and slacken the two side and on top airbox locating screws, this will enable the airbox to move back and forwards (but do not remove completely) slide the airbox up to the carbs. Get a 2nd person to hold them straight on to the backs of the carbs. Now get a long pry bar between the bottom of the battery holder and and the back of the airbox and lever forwards. Then do your clamps up........ SIMPLES!
Re: Airbox help required - ChristoT - 17-06-14
Battery is out, bolts are loose. I hesitate to use brute force as I don't want to muller the rubbers!
Re: Airbox help required - Deefer666 - 17-06-14
Motorcycles are assembled using brute force, unnecessary swearing, bad rock music, and gallons of tea in an unwashed mug, get on with it man!
Re: Airbox help required - ChristoT - 17-06-14
(17-06-14, 08:53 PM)Deefer666 link Wrote: Motorcycles are assembled using brute force, unnecessary swearing, bad rock music, and gallons of tea in an unwashed mug, get on with it man!
I definitely do 2 & 3, my yodelling must be heard to be believed! :rollin
You really don't want to hear me yodelling. :lol :lol
Re: Airbox help required - y82ugp - 17-06-14
I remember doing this and it was a complete b@@@@@d of a job Perserveance paid of in the end.
Re: Airbox help required - ChristoT - 17-06-14
(17-06-14, 09:57 PM)y82ugp link Wrote: I remember doing this and it was a complete b@@@@@d of a job Perserveance paid of in the end.
I've done it before on my last Fazer. The engine carbs were a bastard, the airbox comparatively easy. On this Fazer, the engine was still a bastard, but the airbox is buggered too!! It certainly wasn't this hard last time.
Re: Airbox help required - unfazed - 18-06-14
(17-06-14, 09:32 AM)Ruby Racing link Wrote: [quote author=ChristoT link=topic=13658.msg154147#msg154147 date=1402950045]
I've already tried a thin smear of vaseline on the inside of the rubber, but that isn't helping much.
Is Vaseline a good idea? It's a petroleum product and that breaks down rubber. That's why you don't use it with condoms. Unless you want babies!
[/quote]
Baby Fazers :eek
Re: Airbox help required - ChristoT - 18-06-14
I know there's a Fazer 125 and 250, but I don't intend to have intimate relations with my bike!! :eek :lol