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No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Fazerider - 09-01-14
I was late for work, it was a beautiful sunny morning, there was very light traffic and the first dry roads my BT023s have seen since fitting a thousand miles ago, but I didn't feel any of those excuses were going to have much effect on the two nice gents from the Met who stopped me on the A316 this morning.
Phrases such as "we couldn't get a lock on you over the previous flyover" make me think they were being kind and I was lucky to get away with 3 points and a £100 fine.
So, does anyone have any good techniques for getting out of a speeding habit?
This is a journey I've done thousands of times. I know the road like the back of my hand and it's difficult to stay focussed on observing the limit. It's just too easy to maintain motorway speeds where the M3 turns into the 50mph (but still 3 lanes wide) A316. This morning's experience will slow me down for a few months, but know that eventually I'll focus on the speedometer less. I want to keep to within shouting distance of the limit as a habit.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - rustyrider - 09-01-14
Did they get a lock on you? Did they caution you and issue a fixed penalty notice or tell you they would be reporting you? If they never managed to get a lock on you they have no proof you were speeding or what speed you were actually doing. They can't go to court and say something like, "Well Mr Magistrate sir, we don't actually know what speed he was doing but it was too fast", they've got to have corroborating evidence.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Fazerider - 09-01-14
Oh yes. :o
They said I was going faster earlier but got a lock over the next flyover.
1 mph short of a summons apparently... so £100, three points and I consider myself lucky.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - BBROWN1664 - 09-01-14
If you normally wear ear plugs, take them out. If not, get a noisy helmet. It will slow you down as the noise makes you think your going faster than you are.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - hightower - 09-01-14
Just start commuting like this. If you break the speed limit then I would be surprised! :lol
Crazy stunt: Chinese man rides scooter standing, facing backwards, takes phone call
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - alan sherman - 09-01-14
Just think of the insurance renewal cost if you were to lose your licence. The 316 isn't a place to be hammering it in my opinion, there are always police on it! Too easy picking for people as they come off the motorway. Also they keep lowering the speed limit and moving it out of town.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Simon.Pieman - 09-01-14
(09-01-14, 04:12 PM)alan sherman link Wrote: The 316 isn't a place to be hammering it in my opinion,
I agree, I use that section regularly and you really want to ease up coming off the M3.
I think you were asking for a nick to be honest.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Fazerider - 09-01-14
There's no argument from me... the ticket was well deserved.
Quite apart from the police (though I rarely encounter them at the time I travel in late mornings) there is the Dairy Crest site on the left which has the odd milk float struggling along at 15 mph and last month a broken-down vehicle was stranded in the right hand lane on the right hand bend. So I can't quibble about it being a 50 mph zone despite it being 3 lanes wide and a better surface than most of the M3.
I know while it's fresh in my mind I'll ride sensibly there, I'm just wondering how to avoid getting back into bad habits.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Tag - 09-01-14
Lose the ear plugs and take the muffler out of your can. Noise helps remind you of speed.
Also think about changing up a bike at some point...sounds crazy? When I moved from the Fazer6 to the R1 I found that while I would have moments of sheer madness of course, most of the time I was riding slower than I would usually on the Faz. I think that once you have reached the point that you can outride the bike you take it for granted...yet even a year after owning the R1 I was still sh*t scared that it could bite me at any moment without notice.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Fazerider - 10-01-14
Hmm.. don't fancy riding without earplugs, I do 20-odd miles on the motorway on my commute and don't want to lose my hearing sooner than is already happening.
Taking the baffle out of the exhaust might work though. I often get home quite late at night so the neighbours may not be pleased, but it could be worth a try.
Are there any satnavs that actually know the speed limits of the roads?
There are plenty that include or can add speed camera warnings, but they only know the speed limit at that particular location... what I'd like is a warning that I'm getting close to the "summons" speed wherever I am, not just at certain spots.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - robby boy - 10-01-14
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Are there any satnavs that actually know the speed limits of the roads?
There are plenty that include or can add speed camera warnings, but they only know the speed limit at that particular location... what I'd like is a warning that I'm getting close to the "summons" speed wherever I am, not just at certain spots.
If you are not looking at the speedo to tell your speed would you look at a sat nav. Bit of a no brainer there I think.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Fazerider - 10-01-14
(10-01-14, 12:39 AM)robby boy link Wrote: If you are not looking at the speedo to tell your speed would you look at a sat nav. Bit of a no brainer there I think.I was thinking more along the lines of an audible warning. :lol
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - richfzs - 10-01-14
Some of the garmins do - I don't know which specifically though, other than the rest badged one that bmw sell, sorry (and because that's got bmw on the box, it's silly money)
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - tc330 - 10-01-14
Audible warning?...................oh you mean nagging..........just carry the wife on the back :lol
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - keithfzs1000 - 10-01-14
ye sat navs have an audible warning and you can set it to say 5 mph over the speed limit it beeps when say on 50 road 55 is reached or what i do in the car is use the rev counter to keep to speed limit as keeping car to 1800 - 2000 rpm keeps me nicely there plus saves loads on juice and i focus on the savings, driving my normal way in my mazda 6 diesel compared to the 1800 rpm way no brainer extra 105 miles to a full tank, although i have never tried it on the bike :rollin :rollin
would i be able to resisit the temptation :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Fazerider - 10-01-14
Thanks Rich and Keith, I'll check the current satnavs out.
I had a bit of a love/hate relationship with the Garmin I bought 5 years ago in the US. It's frustratingly slow to respond to commands and occasionally gets a route tied in a knot and then it feels a bit like the old joke about asking the Irishman how to get somewhere and he replies "Well, if I were you I wouldn't start from here".
Still, 5 years is a long time in the electronics industry, the things must have improved.
First thing to do though, is go down to my local plod shop and hand over my nice old paper licence. :'(
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Grahamm - 10-01-14
(10-01-14, 12:13 AM)Fazerider link Wrote: Are there any satnavs that actually know the speed limits of the roads?
Yes, my TomTom Rider v2 is set that if you go over the limit you get a warning beep, although sometimes their maps aren't as up to date as they might be, so you still need to keep an eye on the limit signs (which, of course, you should be doing anyway!)
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - midden - 10-01-14
What's 1 mph short of summons, 99mph?
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - stevierst - 10-01-14
(10-01-14, 10:02 PM)midden link Wrote: What's 1 mph short of summons, 99mph?Depends on where you are in the country, different county's have different tolerances. Normally it's 10%+2 or 3 for prosecution, but that's for a ticket.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - bigralphie - 10-01-14
30 mph over the limit and your looking at a ban ,thats straight from a clerk of the court