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Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - NotAnotherHill - 10-11-13

Just picked a puncture on the rear tyre of my Pilot Road 2s. A screw nicely embedded. Just checked the website o the tyre place I normally go to get tyres to see his prices for repairing punctures to find he doesn't repair ZR rated tyres. Is this normal? I had one repaired a couple of summer's ago on Pilot Road 2s at a different place.


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - Exupnut - 10-11-13

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Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - darrsi - 10-11-13

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/community/Forums/Categories/Topic/?&topic-id=332837


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - NotAnotherHill - 10-11-13

According to Crafty Plugger's website it is more of a 'get you home' fix rather than something more permanent. Have you had one in a tyre for a longer term fix?


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - Exupnut - 10-11-13

The fix lasts for the life of the tyre.


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - darrsi - 10-11-13

They're basically just covering their own arse, which is fair enough when you think about it.
When i thought i had a puncture the other day i phoned my mechanic and he was willing to repair my tyre for me, but fortunately it turned out to be a flesh wound so i didn't need it done.  Smile 


I don't think it's illegal, but these are the recommended guidelines, so it's a discretionary thing.

[color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]BS. AU 159/f. The damage limits of BS. AU 159/f are:[/color][color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]A tyre must not be repaired if it has any of the followingBig Grinamage larger than 6mm in tyres up to and including 'J' speed rating.
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  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]Damage larger than 3mm in tyres above 'J' speed rating up to and including 'V' speed rating.[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]Damage not reasonably perpendicular to the casing.[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]A speed rating above 'V'.[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]Ply separation or local removal of inner lining and/or ply cutting by penetrating object (secondary damage).[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]Tread separation.[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]Broken bead wire or bead damage.[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]Damage due to under inflation in service.[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]Sidewall damage.[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]A penetration occurring outside an area of the tread, measured about the centreline, which is 50% of the nominal section width of the tyre.[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]The maximum number of repairs is not to exceed:2 repairs per tyre in tyres up to and including 'J' speed rating (100km/h / 62mph). Patches must not overlap.[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]1 repair per tyre in tyres above 'J' speed rating up to and including 'V' speed rating (240km/h / 150mph).[/color]
  • [color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]No repairs in tyres with speed ratings above 'V'.[/color]



Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - nick crisp - 10-11-13

I've had ZR rated tyres repaired with mushroom type plugs (permanent) and not had any problems. Last time was a few years ago tho, maybe things have changed  :rolleyes
I also recommend Punctureseal/safe (and still can't remember exact foccin name!  :lol ) for pre-treatment. Rated to 150mph and had loads of good feedback from customers.


Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - Exupnut - 10-11-13

Darsi .... Have u ever used the crafty plugger? Do u know what ur talkin about, i do. I have been usin it for 10 yrs mate. Now i tellin u it lasts the life of the tyre. If u wanna pontificate over somethin u never used then go a head. But maybee u shud order one and check it out fer yerself first. I wouldn't advocate something on this site (friends) that wouldn't work.


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - darrsi - 11-11-13

(10-11-13, 11:32 PM)Exupnut link Wrote: Darsi .... Have u ever used the crafty plugger? Do u know what ur talkin about, i do. I have been usin it for 10 yrs mate. Now i tellin u it lasts the life of the tyre. If u wanna pontificate over somethin u never used then go a head. But maybee u shud order one and check it out fer yerself first. I wouldn't advocate something on this site (friends) that wouldn't work.


What are you chatting about, i didn't say a word about the Crafty Plugger?  :rolleyes


And anyway, my dad and 2 brothers were all tyre fitters, that method has been around for decades, i know exactly what it's all about thanks very much!


I just pointed out the guidelines given out by tyre manufacturers about repairing tyres with a high speed rating, and i can understand their point of view because you will have a weak point in the tyre.
It personally wouldn't bother me plugging a tyre at all though, as i said earlier.


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - Exupnut - 11-11-13


(10-11-13, 10:28 PM)darrsi link Wrote: They're basically just covering their own arse, which is fair enough when you think about it.



Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - darrsi - 11-11-13

(11-11-13, 06:28 AM)Exupnut link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=10667.msg112539#msg112539 date=1384118933]
They're basically just covering their own arse, which is fair enough when you think about it.
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I know what i said, it was me that wrote it.
That was in response to the OP when he said "...Just checked the website o the tyre place I normally go to get tyres to see his prices for repairing punctures to find he doesn't repair ZR rated tyres..."
Hence the reason i did a search to find out why he refused?


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - His Dudeness - 11-11-13

I've used the stringy type plugs a few times and they always worked.


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - darrsi - 11-11-13

(11-11-13, 11:27 AM)His Dudeness link Wrote: I've used the stringy type plugs a few times and they always worked.

They do work, and they're even a little bit easier to use now as before you used to have to cover them in glue as well, but no need now for any messiness.  Smile


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - paulkemp - 11-11-13

CALM DOWN Exupnut he was only being helpful.



Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - Exupnut - 11-11-13

Hey darsi... Sorry mate...i didnt realise u were talkin about the original post. I didnt know what OP was either and I'm scrolling down thinkin "who the fucks OP? I can't see his post" but I got ur drift now.

I will now.......
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Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - darrsi - 11-11-13

(11-11-13, 04:32 PM)Exupnut link Wrote: Hey darsi... Sorry mate...i didnt realise u were talkin about the original post. I didnt know what OP was either and I'm scrolling down thinkin "who the fucks OP? I can't see his post" but I got ur drift now.

I will now.......
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No worries matey  Wink


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - CRH - 11-11-13

(11-11-13, 04:36 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Exupnut link=topic=10667.msg112658#msg112658 date=1384183945]
Hey darsi... Sorry mate...i didnt realise u were talkin about the original post. I didnt know what OP was either and I'm scrolling down thinkin "who the fucks OP? I can't see his post" but I got ur drift now.

I will now.......
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No worries matey  Wink
[/quote]....ya didnt say that earlier darrsi?...when you said you where going round to his and bash is fkn head in with his violin!!!!....if he didnt say sorry :lol :lol :lol


Re: Fixing puncture of a ZR rated tyre - NotAnotherHill - 16-11-13

Got the puncture repaired for £12 at a local bike tyre place. Seems ok. Let's hope it holds out. Gave me chance to clean the inside of the swing arm that was caked in a few year's worth of oil whilst I had the wheel out.