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Oil change failed - Countdown - 02-11-13
I give up the oil filter ain't budging :'(
I had a strap wrench that wouldn't work and then in a moment of stupidity I put a screwdriver through it to try and turn it and that failed, if I kept going with the screwdriver I would have no filter left, there is still enough shape to it to perhaps remove the filter with a decent tool.
Need to order a tool online any suggestions? If the sump plug bolt is anything to go by the filter is stuck on pretty well, I had to use a breaker bar to remove the sump plug :'(
Re: Oil change failed - chris.biker - 02-11-13
HI, first things first, make sure you are trying to turn it Anti clock wise, that said I would spray it at its base with penetrating spray and try again. Best of luck.
Re: Oil change failed - Countdown - 02-11-13
Yeah turning it the correct way, just sprayed dome wd40 at the base. I've ordered a cup wrench tool hopefully it works and arrives soon. Bus to work on Monday gutted :o
Re: Oil change failed - Fazerider - 02-11-13
An old wood chisel or sharpened screwdriver held against the rim and tapped with a hammer always shifts it for me.
Re: Oil change failed - adeejaysdelight - 02-11-13
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OIL-FILTER-PLIERS-WRENCH-CAR-REMOVER-REMOVAL-TOOL-STRAP-/300558337090?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item45faac4442
Re: Oil change failed - ogri48 - 02-11-13
Heat always works for me if anythings stuck mate. It'll expand then contract, generally breaking the seal.if it's a place you can't use a naked flame, a hot air gun like a paint stripper will generally do, but takes longer. The other option is extreme cold if you have a means of imparting it to the bit that needs removing.. that'll make it contract and you got more chance of undoing it straight away.
Re: Oil change failed - jon - 02-11-13
I remember having the same trouble years ago with a mk2 fiesta. The bugger just wouldnt budge so I hammered a screwdriver right through it and tried to twist it, but there wasnt enough room to get decent leverage, so I removed the screwdriver, put on a pair of marigolds for grip, grabbed the filter as tight as I could and gave it an almighty twist in anger.....
gripping as tight as I could to a tin filter that I had just shredded with a screwdriver...
...it didnt end well
Re: Oil change failed - red98 - 02-11-13
when using a chain or strap wrench,position the tool as close to the engine as possible so it dos`nt distort the filter.......the chisel tip is a TOP TIP but take it easy.....when refitting new filter,a smear of oil around the seal and just hand tight...no problems next time.....good luck and dont forget theres loads of help on here
Re: Oil change failed - Andy Clap - 02-11-13
(02-11-13, 05:29 PM)Fazerider link Wrote: An old wood chisel or sharpened screwdriver held against the rim and tapped with a hammer always shifts it for me.
+1 :thumbup
Re: Oil change failed - Doddsie - 02-11-13
I had the same problem a few years back so I always use a K and N filter with the nut on the end now. :thumbup
Re: Oil change failed - chaz - 02-11-13
This is the tool I use it's a bit of old plastic fall pipe the I/D is 64/65mm, it has a hole for a tommy bar, which I've never needed to use, It's a tight fit on the filter so hasn't slipped so far but if it did I would put a few self tapping screws through it into the filter, so out you go and take down your fall pipe, as long as its round and the right size, they vary from make to make?
Re: Oil change failed - Doddsie - 02-11-13
does it fit through the downpipes?
Re: Oil change failed - noggythenog - 03-11-13
Just outta curiosity chaps,
Would it make sense to run the engine a good while t get everything nice & hot & easier to come off, & to burn your hands to death on the pipes.?
Mine came off with the screwdriver & hammer method & then i got a k&n
Re: Oil change failed - Chris - 03-11-13
Probably a bit late for this option but: Delboy's Garage, Motorcycle Oil Filter trick..!
When you do get it off then get a K&N one as it has a nut welded to the end so you can undo it with a spanner the next change.
Chris
Re: Oil change failed - chaz - 03-11-13
(02-11-13, 11:54 PM)Doddsie link Wrote: does it fit through the downpipes?the filter on the FZ6 is on the side of the engine the number is 303, don't know about the FZ600's
Re: Oil change failed - VNA - 03-11-13
I always use one of these; (in the correct size)
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/tools/car-service-tools/oil-service-tools/oil-filter-wrenches/?SEAVS7004-66.06&0&t5_444
Though if you have distorted the end of the filter it might not fit. But otherwise works every time.
I did have the same situation the first time I tried to change the oil on my car. I think the filter I was trying to remove had been there for about 3 and a half years, it had bonded to the filter mount. Yup I used to use a screwdriver to take em off, but this one was just opening up like a sardine can. And of course you then have a car which is out of action.
Bought one of these and it took it off,
http://www.mpdirect.co.uk/p/5910/draper-65-120mm-capacity-three-leg-oil-filter-wrench
As you turn it, it turns and increasingly tightens it's grip, usually they just pop off, but if it's tight this baby will half crush it before turning it off. You can get a lot of pressure onto the filter with this thing. Having said that you might find it difficult to get it onto your bike filter without removing the downpipes.
Re: Oil change failed - tony_d123 - 03-11-13
With a sharp screwdriver at 90 degrees to the filter, hammer a nick into the folded rim (where it touches the engine casing). Then with the screwdriver at about 45 degrees tap the filter on the nick until it starts to move. You should then be able to remove it easily.
Re: Oil change failed - Countdown - 03-11-13
We have success :rollin Oil is changed!
Thanks for everyone's suggestions, but Chaz you are fuckin genius coming up with that idea. Ended up in b&q buying guttering but it worked a treat! Thanks again