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R1 Calipers - unfazed - 09-09-13
Replaced my front Blue Spots with a set of 2003 R1 Gold Spots yesterday.
First trip with them on today and strangely enough these give more feel than the Blue Spot did with the stainless brake lines. :eek
A direct replacement, only extra was 4 copper washers for the banjo bolts on the calipers. They even take the same brake pads. The longest part of the job was bleeding the brakes after fitting them.
Re: R1 Calipers - His Dudeness - 09-09-13
Ooohh very sharp!
Re: R1 Calipers - Fuzzy - 09-09-13
I have silver spots on mine and they felt better too. Surely the only difference is the condition they're in though, as technically they're the same no? Or possibly the R1 pistons have a coating, seem to remember something along those lines.
What are the EBC discs like btw?
Re: R1 Calipers - unfazed - 09-09-13
Apparently the R1 Gold Spot were the final incarnation of these type of calipers as the later ones use the same system, but are radial mounted.
The Pistons are similiar to Fazer 400 Brembos in that they have a black low friction coating. I replaced the seals on the 400 recently and whereas the caliper had some corrosion and the dust seals hard gone hard, the black coated pistons were completly corrosion free. I was able to scrape of the dirt build up off the pistons with ny finger nails. Something I could never do on the standard stainless pistons
My blue spots are in excellent condition, but I did notice that it was easier to push the pistons back on the Gold Spots than it was on my Blue Spots.
To answer the EBC disc question, I am very disappointed with them, :'( a waste of money,the OEMs were a far superior disc.
The only advantage they have over the OEM is that they are lighter.
I have always used EBC HH pads even with the OEM discs without any issues.
With the EBC discs when you park the bike wet over night the pads are rust seized in the morning. They are very poor when cold and worse when cold and wet. I have to apply the brake lightly to get them to heat up to work properly in cold and wet weather. I changed the pads thinking that there may have been contaminated from the running in process of the discs but the new ones were the same. They also make a strange whirring sound which took a while to get used to.
I would not recommend them to anybody who uses their bike in all weather. will change them for something else,if necessary OEM when I ave some spare cash.
Re: R1 Calipers - Fuzzy - 13-09-13
Thanks for the info, that is interesting. Glad I asked about the discs too. After reading this I actually realised that I have a rear EBC x-series disc but I haven't suffered from the same issues as you. I have ABE discs up front which are decent enough but do suffer slightly from surface rust after a wet ride, but not too bad that it bothers me. I'd agree with you and say that oem discs are the way to go, although I'd heard Ferodo have started selling discs at a reasonable price - I wonder what they're like.
Re: R1 Calipers - unfazed - 13-09-13
I fitted an EBC rear disc some 3 years ago, which I sinced changed as it was not transferring the heat well and lost the back brake a few times on the pyrennees and the corkscrew hill in Ireland it eventually over heated and dished. I fitted a brembo and never had a problem since. (Not even on the corkscrew) Unfortunately as far as I know Brembo do not do front discs.
I have heard good reviews about the Ferodo discs, but do not know of anyone who tried them.
Re: R1 Calipers - Fuzzy - 13-09-13
I shall keep an eye on the rear disc then! :\