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A bin and some concrete - Fuzzy - 02-09-13

Read something ages ago that gave me this idea. I want a motorcycle anchor but don't want to drill into the driveway or into a wall as it's rented accommodation.

So how about getting one of those big outdoor bins and a ground anchor a bit like these here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/80L-Capacity-Rubbish-Hard-Wearing-Black-Bin-Outdoor-Refuse-Waterproof-Lidded-NEW-/360704002895?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Bathroom_Wastebaskets_Bins_PP&hash=item53fba24b4f#ht_988wt_1136

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CEMENT-IN-GROUND-ANCHOR-MOTORBIKE-MOTORCYCLE-BICYCLE-QUAD-TRAILER-/271144758413?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3f217cac8d#ht_4658wt_899

Then shove the anchor inside and cut a hole in the side of the bin at the bottom so the anchor sticks out, and simply fill the bin up with concrete. Voila!

There you go. I realise it's moveable unlike a ground anchor but a 80l bin full of concrete attached to a bike is going to be a pain in the arse for a thief to load into a van or whatever. Surely an improvement on just a chain alone. Have I thought this through properly or is it just a brain fart? What do you think?

Re: A bin and some concrete - ChristoT - 02-09-13

Good luck moving that if you ever move house... :rolleyes

Re: A bin and some concrete - Arfa - 02-09-13

Seems a good idea. 80l of concrete will weigh approx 190Kg odd. Probably a good deterrent.

Re: A bin and some concrete - Dead Eye - 02-09-13

Crikey, that's going to weigh almost as much as the bike then - how the hell would you get rid of it if you needed to :|

Having said that, it is a fantastic idea and something I may very well look in to as well

Re: A bin and some concrete - Hamos - 02-09-13

Plus, if the bike gets nicked, and the culprit is apprehended, you have a handy weight to tie to their ankles when you throw them in the river!

It is better than having nothing.

Re: A bin and some concrete - mr self destruct - 02-09-13

(02-09-13, 04:23 PM)Dead Eye link Wrote:Crikey, that's going to weigh almost as much as the bike then - how the hell would you get rid of it if you needed to :|

Use a motorcycle trailer maybe? Wink

Re: A bin and some concrete - taylor - 02-09-13

clever man,top marks just hope they don't take it with the rubbish, Wink

Re: A bin and some concrete - ChristoT - 02-09-13

(02-09-13, 04:26 PM)mr self destruct link Wrote:[quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=9694.msg98543#msg98543 date=1378135417]
Crikey, that's going to weigh almost as much as the bike then - how the hell would you get rid of it if you needed to :|

Use a motorcycle trailer maybe? Wink

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I have a towbar for sale... :'(

Re: A bin and some concrete - Dead Eye - 02-09-13

(02-09-13, 04:26 PM)mr self destruct link Wrote:[quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=9694.msg98543#msg98543 date=1378135417]
Crikey, that's going to weigh almost as much as the bike then - how the hell would you get rid of it if you needed to :|

Use a motorcycle trailer maybe? Wink

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Potentially - I'm just thinking in the grand scheme of things how you would get rid of it or transport if necessary. Not everyone has a car or trailer and rely solely on their bike for transport. A bike trailer might be low enough to load it I guess, but most other trailers / estate cars are probably too high to be able to lift it... if you could

I was trying to think of some method of breaking it down in to smaller pieces - but being able to do this defeats the objective of making it too much hassle to steal

Re: A bin and some concrete - mr self destruct - 02-09-13

(02-09-13, 05:49 PM)Dead Eye link Wrote:Potentially - I'm just thinking in the grand scheme of things how you would get rid of it or transport if necessary. Not everyone has a car or trailer and rely solely on their bike for transport. A bike trailer might be low enough to load it I guess, but most other trailers / estate cars are probably too high to be able to lift it... if you could

I was trying to think of some method of breaking it down in to smaller pieces - but being able to do this defeats the objective of making it too much hassle to steal

True, but you'd only need to transport it when moving house, and for that you'd use a van at least.

Might be getting a bit overcomplicated now, but cast the concrete in doughnut shaped sections with a steel bar running laterally through each hole. You could run a strong chain through each while they're on their side, and padlock them together one on top of another and tip them up onto the base. Have to make the hole small enough so scumbags can't get in and break the lock/chain though.

Something like this (check my MSPaint skills!)
[Image: cast_zps873b9e8f.png]

Re: A bin and some concrete - goldfazer - 02-09-13

Cost you a few quid in concrete!

Re: A bin and some concrete - Bornagain again - 02-09-13

Go to B&Q buy a big flower pot. dig out the old bike U lock you lost the keys for. fill the pot with concrete and put the lock in it so only the U part shows. Did me for 5 years as an anchor.

Re: A bin and some concrete - taylor - 02-09-13

a hiab a lot of travellers have them these days.

Re: A bin and some concrete - robby boy - 02-09-13

If you are using a chain use as short a one as possible, they could tip the concrete block onto its side and roll it like a barrel down to thier van and your pride and joy and £100 worth of concrete has gone.

Re: A bin and some concrete - simonm - 02-09-13

(02-09-13, 05:49 PM)Dead Eye link Wrote:[quote author=mr self destruct link=topic=9694.msg98546#msg98546 date=1378135579]
[quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=9694.msg98543#msg98543 date=1378135417]
Crikey, that's going to weigh almost as much as the bike then - how the hell would you get rid of it if you needed to :|

Use a motorcycle trailer maybe? Wink

Re: A bin and some concrete - locksmith - 03-09-13

Stand the bin on the pavement and watch some piss head kick it:lol

Re: A bin and some concrete - fazersharp - 03-09-13

Quote:don't want to drill into the driveway or into a wall as it's rented accommodation.

Why not ask the landlord the question. if you have slabs then im sure they would not mind if you lifted one and dug down and set your anchor in concrete - but make sure that the top of it falls below the slab so that the slab when you leave can be put back, you will just sacrafice your anchor and leave it there when you leave. Your landlord will be pleased to hear that you plan an staying there. Fill in around the ancor with stone pebbles
The issue with chains is that you need one with links thicker than the biggest bolt croppers jaws can open too, I think it is somthing around 19mm so it slips out the jaws. Also only case hardend with a softer centre, if it is fully hardend ive seen vids where the stress and shock of bolt cropping through one side then shatters the other.

Re: A bin and some concrete - Fuzzy - 03-09-13

(03-09-13, 09:40 AM)locksmith link Wrote: Stand the bin on the pavement and watch some piss head kick it:lol

Haha, an added bonus I'd not thought of :lol

I've got a 16mm Squire chain and the ss65 padlock that cost me an arm and a leg (almost identical to the 16mm Almax) so that should be ok. 16mm is supposedly too big for croppers.

Good point about how the bin could potentially be rolled away. A square bin or a big square plant pot (as Bornagain's done) would be better.

If 80l's worth will weigh 190kg odd I think I'll go with about half that. I reckon that should be enough of a deterrent whilst being a bit more manageable.

Re: A bin and some concrete - Farjo - 03-09-13

Quote:Main bike:
FZS600 00-01

No-one's gonna knick that are they?

Re: A bin and some concrete - simonm - 03-09-13

(03-09-13, 07:36 PM)Farjo link Wrote:
Quote:Main bike:
FZS600 00-01
No-one's gonna knick that are they?

Not if, in my case, the fairing is cracked, the handle bars are slightly wonky and the tank is dented and the tail is scratched as is the generator cover and the engine bars