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Do we reckon this is legal? - Tiberius Onklevaart - 28-04-13
Sorry for the general location admins, just looking for a quick answer atm so I can stick it on and worry about other stuff for later
See the pic
It has BS stamp but no e mark. Pretty sure it don't need both eh?
It has perforations at bottom, assuming therefore that its baffled. It roars but doesn't say anywhere not for road use.
Thoughts?
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Chris - 28-04-13
Sure it'll be fine as long as it's not crazy loud. Needs a good clean though
Chris
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - stevierst - 28-04-13
If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck........ :rolleyes
Just don't nail it past the cops!
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Doddsie - 28-04-13
Could be wrong but as I understand it,an exhaust doesnt need to have any markings on it. Noise level is down to MOT testers discretion as long as its not stamped `NOT FOR ROAD USE` or `RACE USE ONLY`!!
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - stevierst - 28-04-13
(28-04-13, 07:45 PM)Doddsie link Wrote: Could be wrong but as I understand it,an exhaust doesnt need to have any markings on it. Noise level is down to MOT testers discretion as long as its not stamped `NOT FOR ROAD USE` or `RACE USE ONLY`!!
That's pretty much how I get it too.
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Tiberius Onklevaart - 28-04-13
Ok thanks. Its going back on
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - simonm - 28-04-13
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1995/2370/made
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Tiberius Onklevaart - 28-04-13
Thanks si
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - simonm - 28-04-13
(28-04-13, 08:32 PM)Tiberius Onklevaart link Wrote: Thanks sinp. A pleasure. Doing research is fun...I don't quite know why but my fingers start itching if I don't know the answer to something.
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Tiberius Onklevaart - 28-04-13
Indeed. I've spent plenty of time on legislation.gov as part of my work but didn't think to look there for this
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Fazerider - 28-04-13
The regulations are written in a style intended for manufacturers and retailers rather than the end user. If a silencer meets the required level of noise reduction then it is stamped BS AU 193, otherwise it gets "not for road use" or "pre 1885 M/Cs only" according to the level and intended market. However, the stamp applies to the unit as sold… if it has removable baffles and the end user takes those out, the silencer may (i.e will almost certainly) be too loud to pass the relevant noise limit.
Since it looks like you could drop a ping-pong ball through that Carbon Can Company silencer it'd be very surprising if it's within the limit. The fact that police don't carry dB meters means you're unlikely to have a problem unless you make a nuisance of yourself, but you might need a lenient MOT tester.
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - alan sherman - 28-04-13
Looks like one of the removable baffle cans, with the baffle removed. Why not just refit the baffle? Then it would be legal.
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Tiberius Onklevaart - 28-04-13
Quoting oneself is bad dju dju
(28-04-13, 07:23 PM)Tiberius Onklevaart link Wrote: It has perforations at bottom, assuming therefore that its baffled. It roars but doesn't say anywhere not for road use.
Tried to catch said perforations in shot but phone only focuses one thing at a time.
Straight throughs can pass and be legal, no?
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - ghostbiker - 29-04-13
Legal and passing an mot are not allways the same thing.
My twin port blue flame is stamped but with baffels removed its to loud to be legal, yet still passes mot with ease.
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Fazerider - 29-04-13
(28-04-13, 11:50 PM)Tiberius Onklevaart link Wrote: Straight throughs can pass and be legal, no?Yes, but it depends on how the internals are arranged. A gun silencer does an impressive job of keeping the dBs down and is obviously a straight through design.
That can of yours has a mounting hole for a baffle on the one port fully visible in your pic, I'm willing to bet there's a corresponding one on the other port. If it could pass the noise restrictions without the baffles in... what would be the point of them?
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - mtread - 29-04-13
Quote:"pre 1885 M/Cs only"That'll be the Trudge Whitworth 3 1/2 hp then ? :rollin
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Fazerider - 29-04-13
(29-04-13, 09:43 AM)mtread link Wrote::lol Top typo spotting!Quote:"pre 1885 M/Cs only"That'll be the Trudge Whitworth 3 1/2 hp then ? :rollin
Re: Do we reckon this is legal? - Tiberius Onklevaart - 29-04-13
Ok then. Thanks for the input folks