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vibrators - taylor - 27-03-13
i work on building sites and are told about vibration white finger all the time, i have prob got it from the use of sthill saws wacker plates etc etc, do we get it from our bikes? and if so is there a chart saying which ones have the less vibration , etc etc.
Re: vibrators - chaz - 27-03-13
had a girlfriend who said she had "vibration white cl*****s" from using a vibrator when her partner was "away" for four years, lol.
Re: vibrators - taylor - 27-03-13
yes very serious, the ends of all my fingers are going white and bloody serious pain in them whilst out today,
Re: vibrators - DryRob - 27-03-13
might be more because of the cold
Re: vibrators - Skippernick - 27-03-13
Yes bikes have vibration and its minimal bar weights and rubber pegs etc are designed to reduce it, but there won't be a list as such, a vibey 125 will be high and a smooth 4 cylinder like your bike will be low.
I suggest your got this from your job and not the bike at all, maybe time to change jobs or get the appropriate ppe.
Re: vibrators - simonm - 28-03-13
The noise level on a motorbike is much worse than the vibration, but most of that vibration will depend on the quality of the shock absorbers and the quality of the road.
If you want less shock I'd recommend you buy something designed to absorb shock a lot. I.E. a tourer or adventure bike rather than a sports bike or superbike.
Just my 2p.
Re: vibrators - Grahamm - 28-03-13
Two things to consider:
1) How tightly are you gripping the bars? You shouldn't need to put any pressure on them, I was always told you should hold them like you had an egg in your hand.
2) If you're wearing multiple layers under your jacket because of the cold, check that nothing's digging in under your armpit or nearby, this can actually reduce the blood supply to your hands causing the effect you mention.
Re: vibrators - jon - 28-03-13
You work on a building site, I suggest you drink a cup of concrete and harden the fuck up! :rollin
Re: vibrators - pierre - 28-03-13
I changed from a V twin to a CBF 600 because of White Finger. Still There. They now believe I have Reynards Disease, circulation problem.
I am 63,so I guess age had a bearing on that. Good luck.
Re: vibrators - purplebear7 - 28-03-13
Have you guys seen the 'anti cramp' gizmo thing that Scottoiler do .. a small black plastic 'paddle' that slides over the throttle grip. You can then rotate it and adjust it so that your wrist is resting on it (when cruising) to hold a constant speed. Saves the need to grip anything and that gives your hand(s) a rest , without the vibes. Bit like Cruise Control Systems .. but much simpler.
They come in two 'widths' wide and narrow .. and two Grip Sizes .. Fat for Heated Grips or Thin for standard grips.
8) The wide one is (IMO) too big .. it gets in the way of your thumb when you do need to grip the bars. They 'rotate' on (and off) in two seconds .. no tools required .. so no risk of having them go 'walkabout' when you are parked up.
I have recently been trying the narrow one over heated grips .. this size seems to work OK .. once you get used to them. Like most things new .. they look a little bit strange at first .. but of course it's all out of sight under your hand when in use.
Ideal for the motorway commute cruisers and long haul touring enthusiasts .. a very simple idea that helps stop cramp and vibes, etc. Worth a go for about £5.00 .. I recon.
Stay Safe
Trev (I'd guess Scottoiler might show these on their web-site ?)Re: vibrators - simonm - 28-03-13
(28-03-13, 07:51 AM)purplebear7 link Wrote:
You can then rotate it and adjust it so that your wrist is resting on it (when cruising) to hold a constant speed. Saves the need to grip anything and that gives your hand(s) a rest , without the vibes. Bit like Cruise Control Systems .. but much simpler.
They come in two 'widths' wide and narrow .. and two Grip Sizes .. Fat for Heated Grips or Thin for standard grips.
8) The wide one is (IMO) too big .. it gets in the way of your thumb when you do need to grip the bars. They 'rotate' on (and off) in two seconds .. no tools required .. so no risk of having them go 'walkabout' when you are parked up.
I have recently been trying the narrow one over heated grips .. this size seems to work OK .. once you get used to them. Like most things new .. they look a little bit strange at first .. but of course it's all out of sight under your hand when in use.
Ideal for the motorway commute cruisers and long haul touring enthusiasts .. a very simple idea that helps stop cramp and vibes, etc. Worth a go for about £5.00 .. I recon.
Stay Safe
Took me ages to figure out what that did a few months ago but it's only worth it if you do a lot of motorway miles I reckon. I think this is more of a wrist/finger cramp released and I am 99% sure it'll do nothing for vibrations.
Re: vibrators - simonm - 28-03-13
Oxford and scottoiler do them:
Item: Oxford Motorcycle Bike Cruise Aid Suitable for most Bikes and Scooters OF378
URL: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271146226534
Alt URL: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Oxford-Motorcycle-Bike-Cruise-Aid-Suitable-most-Bikes-and-Scooters-OF378-/271146226534
(Sent from eBay Mobile for Android)
Re: vibrators - simonm - 28-03-13
As little as £4
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-motorcycle-cruise-control-motorbike-throttle-assistance-UK-SELLER-/140938809377
Re: vibrators - ponkster - 28-03-13
In Scotland we have a clever invention which cures the cold / sore hands associated with riding in the dead of winter - its called ....... the car! lol
Seriously if you think the vibes from a jap inline 4 are bad you have problems - take a go on an old British single and you will suddenly feel great about your Fazer - I did a 150mile ride on my BSA last year and lost two fillings.
Re: vibrators - simonm - 28-03-13
(28-03-13, 08:38 AM)ponkster link Wrote: In Scotland we have a clever invention which cures the cold / sore hands associated with riding in the dead of winter - its called ....... the car! lol:rollin
Re: vibrators - pongeroon - 28-03-13
I used to get this sometimes when I had my Fazer 1000. Not often though, so it may be a bit of Reynauds. especially as I don't seem to get it on my F800R, which is a twin. I haven't had the new bike long, though, so it is too soon to judge really.
Might be worth getting checked out by your GP, Taylor.
Re: vibrators - purplebear7 - 28-03-13
As far as I can see here .. all these on eBay are the Wide type ... the narrow jobby that I have is only about 1" (old money) wide for the full length. Just info
Trev
Re: vibrators - simonm - 28-03-13
Why was this topic called vibrators rather than vibrations ?
Re: vibrators - Chris - 28-03-13
(28-03-13, 01:09 PM)simonm link Wrote: Why was this topic called vibrators rather than vibrations ?
It's funnier...
Anyway, souds like your work that's causing the issue. I'd look into some better PPE, max working times on certain machines etc to stop/slow the damage the machines are causing to your hands.
The vibrations on the bike, unless yours is knackered or you ride on dirt tracks all the time, is so little that it wouldn't cause your condition to get worse. However getting cold hands while riding will make the symptoms of white knuckle worse for a while and your hands will take a while to recover because of the condition so get yourself some decent gloves and/or heated grips, this will help the circulation in your hands and therefore help them feel better.
Chris
Re: vibrators - slappy - 28-03-13
There a limitations on the use of all vibratory equipment.Where I work,which is heavy engineering, there are limits shown on posters and on the company intranet that show the amount of time you can use each different piece of equipment in a 24hr period.
If you are in a union you can get advice off them, or the company you work for should have the information.
White finger is taken very seriously by a lot of companies as you can take legal action against them if they have not taken appropriate precautions to prevent it.