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Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - xlewisbdx - 24-12-12
OK so I have been toying with the idea of getting shiny down pipes. I was just wondering if they are worth it?
Discuss! :lol
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - stevierst - 24-12-12
If you like shiny things, then why the Hell not, its Christmas
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - darrsi - 24-12-12
Is there anything wrong with the one's you have on? I'm presuming they're originals?
I keep being told by Nick at PDQ, who Dyno's my bike, that the stock downpipes on these bikes are far superior to aftermarket one's.
Unfortunately they are also prone to falling apart by rusting, BUT, if they're okay i'd keep them for as long as possible, in my opinion.
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - xlewisbdx - 24-12-12
I have originals on. My end can is shiny that's why I was asking. What does Dyno-ing you bike do? Could I do it with a restricted bike?
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - darrsi - 24-12-12
Basically they wire the bike up to a rolling road machine, rev the nuts off it in every gear, then assess the results in graph form.
To the trained eye it speaks volumes about a bikes performance which can then be adjusted where necessary to get the best out of it.
Unless you have a problem you really can't fathom out then there's no real point in Dyno'ing a restricted bike, it's actually aimed more at performance/race bikes.
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - Skippernick - 24-12-12
I agree with darrsi, my yamaha stealer said the stock pipes are much better than aftermarket ones, they are basically made better by a manufactorer, although in mild steel, which ain't great.
If they are in reasonable condition take them off clean all the rust off and then respray with high temp paint, that will help protect them. Also saves you about 150 quid.
If you leave it too long you will get rust holes on the collector box, trust me i know, i found this out 3 days ago. :'(
I'm taking mine off, welding them up and respraying.
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - johnakay - 24-12-12
the 02 and 03 models fox eye.. had s/steel down pies but cheap grade.
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - Skippernick - 24-12-12
(24-12-12, 09:03 PM)johnakay link Wrote: the 02 and 03 models fox eye.. had s/steel down pies but cheap grade.
Mine's an 02 and they are deffinatly black mild steel, can't speak for 03 model, but fairly sure mild steel as well.
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - gordon - 24-12-12
hi it depends on how u want your bike to look , then i would say get shiny ones
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - xlewisbdx - 24-12-12
(24-12-12, 08:06 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Basically they wire the bike up to a rolling road machine, rev the nuts off it in every gear, then assess the results in graph form.
To the trained eye it speaks volumes about a bikes performance which can then be adjusted where necessary to get the best out of it.
Unless you have a problem you really can't fathom out then there's no real point in Dyno'ing a restricted bike, it's actually aimed more at performance/race bikes.
When I get my restrictors off I will take it. How much does it cost? Would it improve performance?
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - mtread - 24-12-12
"the 02 and 03 models fox eye.. had s/steel down pies but cheap grade."
and a mild steel collector box, which rusts .....
Motad aftermarket is better than the original
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - markbubble - 24-12-12
i replaced my standard pipes with stainless ones for looks more than anything but the bike deffo has less mid range power with the stainless set against standard,if yours is solid id do as already sugested and give a clean and repaint ,and keep doing that when needed,yep they might not be shiney but save you a big wedge of cash and have better running bike
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - Yamazer-92 - 24-12-12
This is interesting as I was just about to get stainless downpipes, the motad "venom" ones for £140 on ebay. I just noticed there is a hole in my collector box and it feels like more could appear too, so are you saying it would actually be worth getting them repair welded instead and then respray them to keep mid range? I'm sure the dyno pics on their website shows better top end and no loss in mid, that was for the pipes with the little connector between the two pipes like the original ones instead of the 4 individual.
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - stevierst - 24-12-12
Gotta admit, I put the Venom stainless pipes on both mine, and my sons Fazers. I certainly didn't feel any power deviation with my butt dyno! :rollin
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - Yamazer-92 - 24-12-12
Haha fair enough, this is why I was quite surprised to read they are not as good as the originals which nobody seems to have in the "show me your fazer" thread. I was under the impression as long as they have the two connectors between the outer and inner pipes on both sides all is good? Also, what is the difference between the venom motad and very expensive motad pipes just in case anyone knows?
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - markbubble - 24-12-12
im not sure what make of pipes mine are as got second hand but they deffo reduce the midrange,theres a few different makes of headers out there so worth checking what people recomend ,think i heard the ones from sandy bikes are good,if you can repair your originals then go for it id say ,il prob get mine (original)blasted and see what coating i can get when iv got the time and money ,im looking for a good condition original end can also
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - Skippernick - 24-12-12
There is nothing wrong with the originals, thats why yamaha put them on. The problem is that they rust which depends on how often the bike goes out in the shite during winter, i ride mine all year it has 18,000 miles on it and where pipes one and two, three and four join it has rusted in the v joints, if you maintain them they'll be fine. I asked this question to my dealer and they said keep the originals.
I can't afford new ones so repairing mine.
It is an 02 bike and there is no stainless steel involved in the exhaust system.
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - Yamazer-92 - 24-12-12
Okay great, cheers for letting me know that to be honest I prefer the black ones anyway with the black engine. Yeah mine is the same skipper, I also ride in winter etc and previous owner may have too but looked after the bike as nothing else is rusty except the exhaust which as I say has holes. How much do you reckon it would cost to get it professionally welded and sprayed, or is it worth just spraying yourself?
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - Skippernick - 24-12-12
Get it proffessionally welded as it is very thin metal and will need a mig welder, also depends on hole sizes.
Sand and spray it yourself with high temp paint (£8) its easy. More coats the merrier.
£50 all in all i reckon and your time and you'll have a better sense of achievement.
Re: Is it worth getting shiny down pipes? - Skippernick - 24-12-12
Ps. soak your exhaust stud nuts for a week with wd40