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Sorn? - maddog04 - 14-12-12
sorned the lads car the other week, eventually he goes and retaxes it and gets a pull as its showing as being sorned. Cops are ok when they see the tax in the window but asked him if he'd notified anyone (DVLA?) that it was not sorned anymore
now I was under the impression that once you taxed it again, it was blatant too all concered that it couldnt be on a sorn and Ive never had any comebacks when sorn/tetaxed the bike
anyone know different or was the cop getting mixed up?
Re: Sorn? - Lawrence - 14-12-12
I thought that by taxing it you were notifying the DVLA that it's not SORN :look Mind you, given how useless the DVLA are it probably just hasn't been updated yet. Give it a few months.
Re: Sorn? - maddog04 - 14-12-12
yup :\
Re: Sorn? - andybesy - 14-12-12
Many may already know these, but in case not got some nice links for you.
You can check the TAX database online here (click vehicle enquiry):
https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app/home/intro
And you can check MOT status and history here and here:
http://motinfo.direct.gov.uk/internet/jsp/ECSID-Internet-Status-Request.jsp
http://motinfo.direct.gov.uk/internet/jsp/ECHID-Internet-History-Request.jsp
And finally you can do a simple yes/no insurance status check here:
http://ownvehicle.askmid.com/
AFAIK all connect to the same databases the police use, so you can anticipate if you're going to run in to problems with ANPR.
To clarify these are all official sites rather than third-party commercial services.
Andy
Re: Sorn? - DryRob - 14-12-12
goin to have to make a note of those addresses, cheers
Re: Sorn? - taylor - 15-12-12
nice one andy, the wife was stopped last year in our brand new car , no insurance, ford had had the money but failed to ins it, i am glad they pulled here, a brand new rs focus ,. i will check in future.
Re: Sorn? - stevierst - 15-12-12
I'll be honest with you maddog, the police mobile terminals are sometimes a little out if date. It all depends on what type of cop pulled the car (traffic/response/other), and what checks they have done.
As for notifying DVLA, well the tax disk itself is proof of that. Sounds like it was possibly an inexperienced cop that looked into it.
What was the cops outcome at the end of it? I'm quite interested.
Re: Sorn? - maddog04 - 15-12-12
they let him go on his way when they saw the tax disc Stevie
Re: Sorn? - Fazer on kill - 15-12-12
If its off road, it needs to be SORN or u could get a fine for no insurance. They dont care that its not on the road.
The Police terminals are only as good as the updates. Should be done over phone internet but doesnt always work.
Re: Sorn? - chaz - 15-12-12
If you use the tax on line you can enquire if any car or bike is taxed as long as you know the make and reg. I have used this to see if some of the cars/bikes are dead or alive, one car I owned in the 80s (triumph vitesse) is still taxed, but has changed colour from blue to yellow.
Re: Sorn? - stevierst - 15-12-12
(15-12-12, 06:00 PM)Fazer on kill link Wrote: If its off road, it needs to be SORN or u could get a fine for no insurance. They dont care that its not on the road.If its SORN'd and you drive on the road, then its a DVLA issue where they chase you for the back payment. All the cop does is report you for it. He can't do you for no insurance (that's if you have any).
The Police terminals are only as good as the updates. Should be done over phone internet but doesnt always work.
As for the car terminals, they have to be downloaded via hardwire every day to update the vehicle database.
And the reason I know this is......... Well you can imagine what I do for a living. :rolleyes
Re: Sorn? - Skippernick - 15-12-12
(15-12-12, 07:38 PM)stevierst link Wrote: [quote author=Fazer on kill link=topic=5549.msg48706#msg48706 date=1355590800]If its SORN'd and you drive on the road, then its a DVLA issue where they chase you for the back payment. All the cop does is report you for it. He can't do you for no insurance (that's if you have any).
If its off road, it needs to be SORN or u could get a fine for no insurance. They dont care that its not on the road.
The Police terminals are only as good as the updates. Should be done over phone internet but doesnt always work.
As for the car terminals, they have to be downloaded via hardwire every day to update the vehicle database.
And the reason I know this is......... Well you can imagine what I do for a living. :rolleyes
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Are you a................rozzer!! :lol
Re: Sorn? - stevierst - 15-12-12
I'm one of the nice ones that rides an Fz1
:evil
Re: Sorn? - Skippernick - 15-12-12
Not unmarked? :eek
Re: Sorn? - stevierst - 16-12-12
I'm one of the nice ones that rides an Fz1
:evil
Re: Sorn? - stevierst - 16-12-12
(15-12-12, 10:53 PM)Skippernick link Wrote: Not unmarked? :eekNa, I only get seen when I want to get seen
Re: Sorn? - Chillum - 16-12-12
Yeah - like sitting in my blind spot for 10 minutes and then coming alongside making me nearly shit me-self and crash (I startle easily).
Isn't the nick-name something like 'road-rats' or 'black-rats'? Can never remember - something plague carrying anyway
Re: Sorn? - Grahamm - 16-12-12
(16-12-12, 05:38 PM)Chillum link Wrote: Yeah - like sitting in my blind spot for 10 minutes and then coming alongside making me nearly shit me-self and crash (I startle easily).
Erm, so maybe you should check your blind spots a bit more often...? :pokefun
Re: Sorn? - stevierst - 16-12-12
'They' are known as gutter rats. Not me, I'm Mr. Nice guy
Re: Sorn? - Skippernick - 16-12-12
So are you a bike cop then?