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bar position - phil on a fazer - 05-06-12
Alright
Had my Fazer for nearly 5 years now, and still it love it :lol but...all this time ive felt its not quite as comfy as i want. i cant quite put my finger on it though, i think its the bars....i think there slightly in the wrong position???
When ever i sit on a bike i automatically sit bolt up right, i think this may be the problem. On the fazer i find i lock my arms when riding, i have to remind myself to drop the shoulders and relax the elbows/arms (just like when you first learnt to ride a big bike).
I bought some bar risers for my Tenere 660, but before i fit them i thought i would try them on the Fazer. There shim stacks so you can have them set to different heights.
![[Image: IMAG0157.jpg]](http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww251/doobieninja/IMAG0157.jpg)
i reckon they only higher the bars 8 - 10mm. Had a quick blast and they felt ok. Thing is i ride my Tenere 70% of the time so my Fazer always feels a bot weird now
. Also to test it properly i would need to go away for a few days, a quick blast down the road isnt enough.The top clamp though doesnt meet the bottom riser...well, it does on one side but not the other (on a standard Tenere neither side touches). there tight so its safe...i hope
![[Image: IMAG0158.jpg]](http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww251/doobieninja/IMAG0158.jpg)
also hopefully getting my seat rebuilt soon so was thinking of having a small amount (15mm?) of height added the riders part.
Its hard to solve the problem as i cant quite figure out what it is i dont like...i think the bars need to be higher (like they now are) but also curve round a tad? ( so the grips are a touch closer?)
anyone know what im on about?
Has anyone else used bar risers...or different bars? Re: bar position - CRH - 05-06-12
ever tryed rolling bars back a bit?...i put 25mm risers on my 600 and rolled back from dead level makes big difference?
Re: bar position - Tmation - 05-06-12
SW Motech do some good kit for moving bars about.
Expensive but very adjustable option [size=78%]http://www.motohaus.com/acatalog/Vario_Barback.html[/size]
Up and back option [size=78%]http://www.motohaus.com/acatalog/Handlebar_Risers___Up_&_Back__31_mm_up__25_mm_back.html[/size]
up only, various, from 20 to 50 mm [size=78%]http://www.motohaus.com/acatalog/Handlebar_Risers_25_mm.html[/size].
I have had a Gen 1 seat rebuilt by digger seats with about 20mm extra in the height and made the riders seat area longer (in the Corbin Style). It makes the seat height a little tall for my dad (who I share the bike with) as he seems to have shrunk a bit as he has got older (80 this year), will have to see how it suits me when I get home in July.
Re: bar position - caretaker - 05-06-12
you need up and back. you wont be able to lock your arms straight.
Re: bar position - Grahamm - 05-06-12
(05-06-12, 02:39 PM)phil on a fazer link Wrote: When ever i sit on a bike i automatically sit bolt up right, i think this may be the problem. On the fazer i find i lock my arms when riding, i have to remind myself to drop the shoulders and relax the elbows/arms (just like when you first learnt to ride a big bike).
Have you tried gripping the bike with your thighs? (No smutty comments from the cheap seats, please!)
I used to lock my arms too, but this pushes your feet down onto the pegs and helps you relax your shoulders, drop your elbows and I've found it makes a noticeable difference to my riding because you can use your legs to help "push" the bike into a turn.
Re: bar position - phil on a fazer - 10-06-12
(05-06-12, 02:56 PM)Tmation link Wrote: SW Motech do some good kit for moving bars about.
Expensive but very adjustable option [size=78%]http://www.motohaus.com/acatalog/Vario_Barback.html[/size]
Up and back option [size=78%]http://www.motohaus.com/acatalog/Handlebar_Risers___Up_&_Back__31_mm_up__25_mm_back.html[/size]
up only, various, from 20 to 50 mm [size=78%]http://www.motohaus.com/acatalog/Handlebar_Risers_25_mm.html[/size].
I have had a Gen 1 seat rebuilt by digger seats with about 20mm extra in the height and made the riders seat area longer (in the Corbin Style). It makes the seat height a little tall for my dad (who I share the bike with) as he seems to have shrunk a bit as he has got older (80 this year), will have to see how it suits me when I get home in July.
thanks for that, some good links.
As i said i think mine are rasied 8-10mm, and with a quick ride seem o.k I guess a few mill more might be nice but alot of the risers are 20,30,40mm high - which i think is too high.
I would also like them back a bit (towards the rider) but again, the risers you can buy seem to bring them back 25 - 40mm....yet again, i think thats too far. i reckon i would only want them back about 15mm which is why i think i may look a different bars to replace the 758's i have.
i know 10 mm higher and 15mm back might seem bugger all but i think it will make a difference....especially when riding all day. Might wait till i get my seat rebuilt and re access the situation.
Anyone know of any bars like the 758's but where the ends sweep back abit closer to the rider?
cheers
Re: bar position - Tmation - 10-06-12
Phil,
Looking at your pictures, the bars are 7/8", I would guess you have raised your bars about 1" or 25mm. you need to measure from where the bottom of the bar was to where it is now.