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famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Lumpy - 22-02-12
Having a discussion on a bike forum generally poulated by old farts about famous bikes. My argument is their idea of a famous bike is tainted as a result of their age so I thought a quick debate on a youngsters forum, where some may dare to fit brighter but illegal bulbs in their headlights, would show different results.
What do you consider to be a famous bike?
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - marksfazer - 22-02-12
Well for me the 2 bikes that spring to mind is the Ducati 916 and the original fireblade. I suppose the bandit was a bit ground breaking when it came out as lots of other bikes copied the format, but certainly wasn't the best. Thats because we all know the MK1 Fazer was the best of breed and in time i'm sure will become a famous bike. Its certainly recogniseable today.
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - sadlonelygit - 22-02-12
cb750
early katanas (not mine)
gsxr750
rg500
rc30
blade
916
r1
all the above brought something fresh to motorcycling. everything else is just a pastiche of the originals (imho)
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Lumpy - 22-02-12
(22-02-12, 12:01 PM)sadlonelygit link Wrote: cb750CB750 undoubtedly but it is the Z1 that is more famous.
early katanas (not mine)
gsxr750
rg500
rc30
blade
916
r1
all the above brought something fresh to motorcycling. everything else is just a pastiche of the originals (imho)
Katana was a styling exercise.
GSXR750 definitely and the Blade improved on this
916 definitely but a development of the 851.
R1 definitely as well
but are these famous for a certain age group perhaps but certainly iconic. For me famous bikes are the 400/4, CBX thou, Z1, 250/350LC, TZ750, RD400E and so onother older ones say the Vincent Black Shadow but my argument is no-one less than 35 would even know what it is.
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - DryRob - 22-02-12
I've only seen photos but I think Tribsas, Tritons and the original Bonnies are probably iconic but doubt I could live with one.
Personally I like the look of the Ducati Monsters and can recognise them but don't think that qualifies them as iconic.
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Major Rant - 22-02-12
There needs to be categories ... like the Baftas!
I nominate...
1st sensible big bike ... CB750 or Z1
1st warmed up moped ... FS1E
Last neanderthal motorcycle ... Trident T160
1st crotch rocket ... RD350
I'm sure there are others.
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - sadlonelygit - 22-02-12
(22-02-12, 12:16 PM)Lumpy link Wrote: [quote author=sadlonelygit link=topic=1826.msg13585#msg13585 date=1329908494]CB750 undoubtedly but it is the Z1 that is more famous.
cb750
early katanas (not mine)
gsxr750
rg500
rc30
blade
916
r1
all the above brought something fresh to motorcycling. everything else is just a pastiche of the originals (imho)
Katana was a styling exercise.
GSXR750 definitely and the Blade improved on this
916 definitely but a development of the 851.
R1 definitely as well
but are these famous for a certain age group perhaps but certainly iconic. For me famous bikes are the 400/4, CBX thou, Z1, 250/350LC, TZ750, RD400E and so onother older ones say the Vincent Black Shadow but my argument is no-one less than 35 would even know what it is.
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the Z900 was going to be a 750, until honda trumped them. so sadly it falls into 'a copy' category.
likewise the a/c or w/c twins have been around forever.
most bike technology has been around since the 20/30's, just either too expensive for mass production or poo-pooed by customers or manufacturers.
2 more to add to the list
DT175MX
Bimota Tesi
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Lumpy - 22-02-12
ah see the mistake here is assuming any facts about what bikes are make a difference, the knowledge we have, or some of us have, is counterproductive here. We are after famous bikes. It matter not that the Z1 is considered a copy, which it isn't of course, it is the fact IT is more famous than the Honda. Similarly the Tesi, awesome though it is, is unlikely to be famous with many people. The LCs will be however, as will the 400/4, and the ixxers, even Harleys (spit).
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - sadlonelygit - 22-02-12
aha! i understand now..............it's an 'eat poo!, 125 billion flies can't be wrong' thing
definately needs a 'by category' as has been suggested.
'coolest bike to be stood next to whilst waiting for the AA..............again' category
70/80's ducati/laverda/guzzi
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Lumpy - 22-02-12
Quote:definately needs a 'by category' as has been suggested.Don't matter if they are cool or not or what category they are. Show someone a C50/70/90 and they may know what it is, show them a Harley (spit) and they may guess, show them a Virago and they will say it's a Harley too, show them a 916/996 and they would probably say race bike unless they were clued up. It's not as simple as it seems.
'coolest bike to be stood next to whilst waiting for the AA..............again' category
70/80's ducati/laverda/guzzi
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Phil TK - 22-02-12
(22-02-12, 10:01 AM)Lumpy link Wrote: What do you consider to be a famous bike?
Honda C90/C100/C110 -and variants of.
Famous all over the planet. More have been sold than the sales of all other motorcycles ever made put together.
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Skippernick - 22-02-12
I'll add these to the mix, only got into bikes a couple of years ago and the tender age of 29, but i have always been aware of...
a Repsol Honda and
a Rizla Suzuki..
I know they are race bike and not road bikes and that they are in fact several different bikes
but they are recognisable even to i none biker like i was then.
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Robbie8666 - 22-02-12
For me it has to be
famous: Steve McQueens Triumph
Iconic: the 2 choppers from Easy rider
Recogniseable: BMW's!
or am i missing the idea of the thread?
or an old person at 45?
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Lumpy - 22-02-12
Quote:or am i missing the idea of the thread?nope, u r just about spot on
or an old person at 45?
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - bigralphie - 22-02-12
anything I,m seen riding has instant icon status :-)
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - dogruff - 22-02-12
Good question Lumpy!
For me it has to be CB750 KO K1.Any Indian(so stylish and iconic that Kawasaki tried to copy them).
As previously stated;any Honda step thru',First fireblade,GPZ900R,Vincent HRD,Bonnie.Fizzy
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - JKay - 22-02-12
(22-02-12, 12:01 PM)sadlonelygit link Wrote: cb750
early katanas (not mine)
gsxr750
rg500
rc30
blade
916
r1
all the above brought something fresh to motorcycling. everything else is just a pastiche of the originals (imho)
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - JKay - 22-02-12
I think you list is a great start and as for The Kat being a Styling exercise well :z
http://www.gsxkatana.de/uploads/pics/1981_GSX1100S_Katana_520.jpg
Where do you stop and start with this list ,What about British Supercharged V4's from the 50's ?
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Lumpy - 22-02-12
(22-02-12, 04:10 PM)JKay link Wrote: I think you list is a great start and as for The Kat being a Styling exercise well :zit was, and a good one, apart from the 550 / 50. Jan Fellstrom from memory, it used the engine and drivetrain from the GSX1100 and was a much better bike. I remeber it well when it came out. The 750S was the sexiest though with the pop up headlamp.
http://www.gsxkatana.de/uploads/pics/1981_GSX1100S_Katana_520.jpg
Where do you stop and start with this list ,What about British Supercharged V4's from the 50's ?
Re: famous / iconic / recogniseable bikes. - Lumpy - 22-02-12
Quote:Where do you stop and start with this list ,What about British Supercharged V4's from the 50's ?we're not looking for great bikes of the time, just famous ones that people would recognise. People will recognise, and therefore famous by dint of that, a C90 much more often than a supercharged V4 from the 50's yeah?