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Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - agricola - 23-02-19
(22-02-19, 06:49 PM)VNA link Wrote:Quote:I pose the question: Should a foreign national come over here, commit/support a terrorist action, and be captured, would said individual stand trial here or in the country of their nationality. I assume that individual would stand trial here, so how come the woman c9oncerned cannot stand trial in the location of her alleged criminal activity?Already covered that - see reply #12
Nope, no 12 did nt answer the question. I understand that the Kurds may be struggling for resources, but the Kurds dont have or belong to a state as such do they. There is no Kurdia, so ill guess they dont have the authority or legislation in place to try anyone. Come to think of it, wasnt it too long ago that the Kurds were considered terrorists by the various states in which they resided? It reminds a little of my old, on one of the very few occasions he talked about his national service. He served in the middle east in the aftermath of WW2, and i recall him telling me that the arabs were your friends one day, the next they were shooting at you, even the ones we were trying help. He found them unreliable, untrustworthy, and excitable, and if you had something they wanted, they would slit your throat for it.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - slappy - 23-02-19
(23-02-19, 07:38 PM)VNA link Wrote:Quote:And there you have it, the" I am right and you are wrong so shut up" argument of the political zealots the world over.
Slappy, your view is that you are unhappy that I do not share your view. That is not an argument.
Absolute bollocks, I am very happy that a person like you does not share my view,.
You are nothing more than a political zealot who trolls this forum preaching your spite and bile at anyone who does not share your view..
And by the way, in blaming the " Saudis " as a whole for financing Isis is not only racist but Islamophobic as I am sure there are a great many Saudi people who are totally innocent of any kind of involvement.
Seems like dazza is totally correct, you and this SYL bloke are the same, you just won"t admit it.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - fazersharp - 23-02-19
Slappy what you have to realise is that you have to go beyond liberal you have to go past left -- keep going - do not stop at far left, you are not there yet, go around communist- what you are dealing with is a Marxist
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - VNA - 23-02-19
Quote:Nope, no 12 did nt answer the question. I understand that the Kurds may be struggling for resources, but the Kurds dont have or belong to a state as such do they. There is no Kurdia, so ill guess they dont have the authority or legislation in place to try anyone. Come to think of it, wasnt it too long ago that the Kurds were considered terrorists by the various states in which they resided? It reminds a little of my old, on one of the very few occasions he talked about his national service. He served in the middle east in the aftermath of WW2, and i recall him telling me that the arabs were your friends one day, the next they were shooting at you, even the ones we were trying help. He found them unreliable, untrustworthy, and excitable, and if you had something they wanted, they would slit your throat for it.Aye the Kurds have been time and time again betrayed by the UK and others. Yes 'we' tried to help the Arabs by stealing their oil, drawing up borders to suit our own imperialistic ambitions, killing and gassing those who resisted and making whole ethnicities stateless.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - VNA - 23-02-19
Quote:Absolute bollocks, I am very happy that a person like you does not share my view,.Attack me all you want. I know it's all you can do.
You are nothing more than a political zealot who trolls this forum preaching your spite and bile at anyone who does not share your view..
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - fazersharp - 23-02-19
Yes the Kurds helped BUT they are not really fighting against isis but they are fighting for their own ends and the US are happy to supply them - which upsets Turkey. But its the Russians who have done the most to clear out isis from Syria.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - VNA - 23-02-19
Quote:But its the Russians who have done the most to clear out isis from Syria.
Perhaps. The Russians backed Assad.
We backed the Free Syrian and others, including many Islamic fundamentalists.
Another superpower proxy war of which ISIS funded by the Saudi's and others took full advantage.
Result – estimated 400,000 dead. Estimated 5 million displaced.
13.5 million requiring Syrians requiring humanitarian aid.
A country laid to waste.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - VNA - 23-02-19
Quote:But its the Russians who have done the most to clear out isis from Syria.Or to be more accurate they provided lethal and often indesciminate air support to Assad's forces, whom of course the Kurds oppose.
But no, the Russians never had boots on the ground. So no they didn't.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - mtread - 24-02-19
Back on subject, I've had an interesting thought.
Savid Javid has set a dangerous but important precedent. If a UK born person, who is eligible through birth line, but hasn't applied for nationality of another country, and they have committed an act of supporting a terrorist organisation, he can withdraw their UK citizenship on the basis that they can apply for nationality of the other country, even if they don't choose to.
Now it's a fact that anybody born on the island of Ireland, including Northern Ireland, or in fact with just one grandparent born there, can apply for Republic of Ireland citizenship and get a passport.
So when is he going to withdraw Arlene Foster's British Citizenship?
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - darrsi - 24-02-19
(24-02-19, 03:44 AM)mtread link Wrote: Back on subject, I've had an interesting thought.
Savid Javid has set a dangerous but important precedent. If a UK born person, who is eligible through birth line, but hasn't applied for nationality of another country, and they have committed an act of supporting a terrorist organisation, he can withdraw their UK citizenship on the basis that they can apply for nationality of the other country, even if they don't choose to.
Now it's a fact that anybody born on the island of Ireland, including Northern Ireland, or in fact with just one grandparent born there, can apply for Republic of Ireland citizenship and get a passport.
So when is he going to withdraw Arlene Foster's British Citizenship?
For what reason, she was born in Ireland and lives in Ireland!
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - mtread - 24-02-19
Quote: For what reason, she was born in Ireland and lives in Ireland!You haven't understood my post.
She was born in Northern Ireland (part of the UK) but qualifies for a Republic of Ireland passport. I doubt though she has applied for one
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - unfazed - 24-02-19
You would be surprised as to how many of Arlene Fosters party have applied for Irish Passports :rolleyes
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - mtread - 24-02-19
If it's Arlene or Sammy, that would be priceless :lol
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - fazersharp - 24-02-19
(23-02-19, 10:29 PM)VNA link Wrote:Wrong - as usual, the Russians are supporting Assad. As for boots on the ground you are naive if you think the Americans, Russia, we do not have them there.Quote:But its the Russians who have done the most to clear out isis from Syria.Or to be more accurate they provided lethal and often indesciminate air support to Assad's forces, whom of course the Kurds oppose.
But no, the Russians never had boots on the ground. So no they didn't.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - VNA - 24-02-19
Quote:Wrong - as usual, the Russians are supporting Assad.Yes that's what I stated.
Quote:As for boots on the ground you are naive if you think the Americans, Russia, we do not have them there.There may have been some discreet advisors, but that would be about it.
Either the Americans or Russians putting boots on the ground could risk a major global escalation.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - fazersharp - 24-02-19
(24-02-19, 07:36 PM)VNA link Wrote:Im sure that the sas are in there directing airstrikes to jihadi jon -et-alQuote:Wrong - as usual, the Russians are supporting Assad.Yes that's what I stated.Yes you did --- my mistake
Quote:As for boots on the ground you are naive if you think the Americans, Russia, we do not have them there.There may have been some discreet advisors, but that would be about it.
Either the Americans or Russians putting boots on the ground could risk a major global escalation.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - VNA - 24-02-19
Quote:Im sure that the sas are in there directing airstrikes to jihadi jon -et-alLooks like you are correct on that. Presumably the USA and Russia have come to some sort of agreement to go after their common enemy ISIS.But I can't see either side risking boots on the ground.
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - dazza - 25-02-19
VNA....mtread.....You don't have to watch this. You can carry on believing the shit you're being fed.
Anyone else who is interested in the truth and what's really being portrayed as factual by the BBC.
Watch and enjoy....This is golden.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=981991885334107&id=381971441938916
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - mtread - 25-02-19
Welcome back Dazza. Missed you. How was your break in Salford? :lol
Re: Jihad Brides return to U.K! - dazza - 26-02-19
(25-02-19, 09:00 PM)mtread link Wrote: Welcome back Dazza. Missed you. How was your break in Salford? :lol
Didn't go in the end.
Heard on the news it was going to be full of racists........Oh, hang on a minute.