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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - celticdog - 21-01-19
EU version 2.0
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 22-01-19
Here's the best 'Plan B'
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Oldgit - 22-01-19
Plan A & B--lets get to Foc out while we can--end of discussion.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 22-01-19
Quote: end of discussionUnlikely
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - ogri48 - 22-01-19
lol aint it just..
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - ogri48 - 22-01-19
as heated as this discussion gets, its good nobody actually falls out with anybody good and proper on this thread. at the end of the day we are all just blokes with our own opinions (and opinions as we all know are just like arseholes, we all got em) ...if we was all in the pub talking about it we'd all end just laughing it off and taking the piss out of each other. Nothing would be resolved lol. personally speaking, all this talk of the lies the leave camp told is immaterial, ive wanted to leave the eu for as long as I can remember. if that makes me imperialist, then I guess I am. Its a badge i'll wear with pride as much as resignation. we are what we are fellers..
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 22-01-19
When it comes to telling lies I'm surprised the Remainers pants haven't self combusted :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 22-01-19
Ex RAF Stuart Thomson of Veterans for Europe "BREXIT is the single most cowardly thing this country has ever done"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glVnHPFcHVY
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 22-01-19
Quote: When it comes to telling lies I'm surprised the Remainers pants haven't self combusted
They can't. The Leave lies have used up all the oxygen
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - darrsi - 22-01-19
(22-01-19, 12:41 PM)ogri48 link Wrote: as heated as this discussion gets, its good nobody actually falls out with anybody good and proper on this thread. at the end of the day we are all just blokes with our own opinions (and opinions as we all know are just like arseholes, we all got em) ...if we was all in the pub talking about it we'd all end just laughing it off and taking the piss out of each other. Nothing would be resolved lol. personally speaking, all this talk of the lies the leave camp told is immaterial, ive wanted to leave the eu for as long as I can remember. if that makes me imperialist, then I guess I am. Its a badge i'll wear with pride as much as resignation. we are what we are fellers..
I'll be honest, if all my mates start talking about Brexit down the pub, I will find some new mates :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 22-01-19
(22-01-19, 01:58 PM)VNA link Wrote: Ex RAF Stuart Thomson of Veterans for Europe "BREXIT is the single most cowardly thing this country has ever done"
YamFazFan of Foc-U "A second referendum is the single biggest betrayal of democracy this country has ever done"
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 22-01-19
Meanwhile the Brexit rats leave the sinking ship as Dyson announces he is moving his head office to Singapore
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Grayo - 22-01-19
(22-01-19, 06:17 PM)mtread link Wrote: Meanwhile the Brexit rats leave the sinking ship as Dyson announces he is moving his head office to SingaporeHighly unlikely that has anything to do with Brexit. He moved his entire manufacturing operation to Malaysia in 2002 so it was only a matter of time.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 22-01-19
He clearly has the UK's interests at heart.....
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Grayo - 22-01-19
(22-01-19, 07:29 PM)mtread link Wrote: He clearly has the UK's interests at heart.....No he doesn't......but neither have lots of UK companies for a long time...... this is not something new.
I used to work for Hotpoint Creda many years ago and they ceased UK manufacturing in 2014 and moved to Hungary.
Clarks Shoes is another.....ceased UK manufacturing in 2005 but won't tell their customers where their production is.
None of these are anything to do with Brexit......it's all down to saving money with cheaper labour.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 22-01-19
Quote:None of these are anything to do with Brexit......it's all down to saving money with cheaper labour.And certainly, BREXIT will make UK labour cheaper with a weak pound and high unemployment. The Tory party of course dream of a low wage economy.
Of course, to avoid import tariffs and quotas on major goods like cars quite a number of manufacturing companies have set up in the UK. But if we leave the single market that takes away the very reason they came here. They will leave too.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 22-01-19
I saw in the news that car insurance is going up and one of the reasons quoted was brexit. Hows - that then.
I think there are a lot of people / companies using brexit as an excuse to hike prices.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 22-01-19
Quote: I saw in the news that car insurance is going up and one of the reasons quoted was brexit. Hows - that then.I think there are a lot of people / companies using brexit as an excuse to hike prices.
Think you are right, and if we were to stay they'd probably use that as an excuse as well.
Noticed in the news Brittany Ferries are moving people's existing bookings so that they can provide extra freight, in case there's No Deal after 29 March.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 23-01-19
Who are Remain trying to influence with their Project Fear lies?.
The referendum is over and they already have Parliament on side. The Commons is stuffed full of Remainers who are going to see that Brexit never happens, Deal or No Deal.
If there's another referendum and Leave win again (highly unlikely due to Leave voter apathy) Parliament will still reject the result.
The only result that will ever be accepted is Remain and they'll just keep us voting until they get the answer they want. I think they've done this before elsewhere.
The trouble is Remain are going to demand further integration after all this is settled.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Millietant - 23-01-19
Remain won't need to demand it, if we stay, I gather we're already committed to it under the terms of the Treaty of Lisbon.
As a separate issue, as much as I detest Mrs May, the process of buying a car last week had me thinking about our negotiation position on Brexit with the EU and I actually felt a tinge of sympathy (not a lot, because I think she's a bit of a devious toad in general :lol ) if I parallel this process, the following is how I would be approaching the car-buying deal
I start by him telling the dealer I want to buy a car and they'll need to be keen to get my business, otherwise I won't be buying one from them.
As we're talking, my wife says to the salesman, "but remember, he doesn't have the final say, because I don't want to buy the same car as him and I have to approve everything he agrees with you before he can sign up to buying the car. Oh and by the way, I won't do that unless you sell him the Paintwork Protection extra, the Extended Warranty extra, the GAP insurance extra and the Puncture Protection insurance extra....oh and by the way, I don't trust him to negotiate on my behalf..........Oh and by the way, if he doesn't give you what you want, I'll divorce him and get somebody else to come and buy the car who thinks like I do".
Does anybody really think I'm being supported in my negotiation position by my wife, and am I going to be able to get a good deal from the salesman ??
Anyone who approached a deal like that in the business world (or real world, outside of politics), would be a laughing stock with zero credibility.
Now I can see why getting anything other than a shit deal out of the EU whilst our Parliament undermines our national negotiating position, is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Whether we like it or not, taking away the threat from the salesman that you will not buy a car from him is commercial suicide, just like taking away the "No Deal" option is commercial and political suicide for our nation in any Brexit negotiations.