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Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - darrsi - 05-01-21

The main reason for the recent rise in Positive cases is because of the unmasked Xmas shoppers, which was then why London was rightly closed down.
But your Tiers 1 to 3 still had the chance to go out for the Boxing Day sales as well. Add those to the Xmas Day family free for all people, and lo and behold, this week we're getting record numbers of new Positive cases.  :rolleyes


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - BBROWN1664 - 05-01-21

(05-01-21, 12:35 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: There's hardly any difference between tier 4 and this. Tier 4 that most were in anyway.
I have said since T4 was introduced that it was basically the same as lockdown 1

The main difference is the way it is being promoted. T4 has always had the "stay at home" element but people ignored it. Now it will be law allowing fines to be issued if you do not have a reasonable excuse for being outside and schools shut. Other than that, it is T4 really.


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - fazersharp - 05-01-21

Why are the news channels giving Capitan Hindsight prime time TV to broadcast "His reply" to the Prime-ministers public announcement. It just sounded like an election broadcast, free of charge.   


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - mtread - 06-01-21

Quote: Why are the news channels giving Capitan Hindsight prime time TV to broadcast "His reply" to the Prime-ministers public announcement. It just sounded like an election broadcast, free of charge.   
Because Captain Lack of Foresight keeps doing U turns and has no strategy at all?
Apparently it's all the fault of this new chap 'Mutant Strain'.


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - Grahamm - 06-01-21

Oh come on!

It's not as if they had known for at least three weeks that there was a more infectious strain of the virus going around and they had been warned by scientists for a fortnight that insisting schools were safe and that children should go back would be a really bad idea, so it came as a total surprise to them and they had to change their minds about threatening schools with legal action for not opening just 24 hours before and, instead, had tell them all to close...  :rolleyes



Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - fazersharp - 06-01-21

(06-01-21, 01:56 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: Oh come on!

It's not as if they had known for at least three weeks that there was a more infectious strain of the virus going around and they had been warned by scientists for a fortnight that insisting schools were safe and that children should go back would be a really bad idea, so it came as a total surprise to them and they had to change their minds about threatening schools with legal action for not opening just 24 hours before and, instead, had tell them all to close...  :rolleyes
Sounds like a conspiracy. Are you suggesting that the gov are purposefully trying to spread covid through the Schools. 


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - Grahamm - 06-01-21

(06-01-21, 12:21 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=Grahamm link=topic=26604.msg322336#msg322336 date=1609894562]
Sounds like a conspiracy.
[/quote]

No, sounds like incompetence, dithering, vacillation and (wilful) ignorance.

Oh, and I'll treat your Straw Man argument follow up with the contempt it deserves.


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - fazersharp - 06-01-21

(06-01-21, 01:08 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26604.msg322340#msg322340 date=1609932107]
Sounds like a conspiracy.

No, sounds like incompetence, dithering, vacillation and (wilful) ignorance.

Oh, and I'll treat your Straw Man argument follow up with the contempt it deserves.
[/quote]Its not a straw man or anything else.I had to google "vacillation" :lol If as you say they knew for at least 3 weeks and the scientists were also telling them and yet they still wanted to carry on opening the Schools. I don't believe even they could be that incompetent so the only thing left is purposefully trying to spread covid.     


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - fazersharp - 06-01-21

(06-01-21, 01:16 AM)mtread link Wrote:
Quote: Why are the news channels giving Capitan Hindsight prime time TV to broadcast "His reply" to the Prime-ministers public announcement. It just sounded like an election broadcast, free of charge.   
Because Captain Lack of Foresight keeps doing U turns and has no strategy at all?
Apparently it's all the fault of this new chap 'Mutant Strain'.
So that sounds like you are saying the new strain does not exist and was made up as a excuse to change Christmas plans so that they would not be accused of "another U turn". 


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - mtread - 06-01-21

Quote: So that sounds like you are saying the new strain does not exist and was made up as a excuse to change Christmas plans so that they would not be accused of "another U turn".
Nope. What I'm saying is that the government is looking for any scapegoat to cover up its own incompetence.
Of course the new strain is real. The scientists told them about it weeks ago. Just when the government was urging children back to school.
Johnson doesn't like giving out bad news, and nothing is ever his fault.


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - fazersharp - 06-01-21

(06-01-21, 02:06 PM)mtread link Wrote:
Quote: So that sounds like you are saying the new strain does not exist and was made up as a excuse to change Christmas plans so that they would not be accused of "another U turn".
Nope. What I'm saying is that the government is looking for any scapegoat to cover up its own incompetence.
Of course the new strain is real. The scientists told them about it weeks ago. Just when the government was urging children back to school.
Johnson doesn't like giving out bad news, and nothing is ever his fault.
Do you trust the Government.


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - mtread - 06-01-21

Quote: Do you trust the Government
Do you?


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - fazersharp - 06-01-21

(06-01-21, 02:47 PM)mtread link Wrote:
Quote: Do you trust the Government
Do you?
No
Your turn.


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - b1k3rdude - 06-01-21

Ok we all know the government regardless of who/which party is in charge are a bunch of lying bastards, and leave it at that,


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - mtread - 06-01-21

Quote: NoYour turn.

Very occasionally.
I'm more likely to trust science though.



Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - Oldgit - 06-01-21

Mother should I trust the Government, Pink Floyd (Mother)


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - fazersharp - 06-01-21

(06-01-21, 04:13 PM)mtread link Wrote:
Quote: NoYour turn.


I'm more likely to trust science though.
Which ones


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - Grahamm - 06-01-21

The latest from Jonathan Pie:

(Warning, contains lots of swearing...!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zx3DFXqxa8&feature=youtu.be


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - Grahamm - 06-01-21

(06-01-21, 01:33 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: If as you say they knew for at least 3 weeks and the scientists were also telling them and yet they still wanted to carry on opening the Schools. I don't believe even they could be that incompetent so the only thing left is purposefully trying to spread covid.     

I think they're just too stupid and arrogant to believe what they're being told.


Re: POLL Will you take the Vax - mtread - 06-01-21

Quote: Which ones
Facts. Not politicians' manipulation of them.