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Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - Dead Eye - 14-03-14
Well that would explain a few things
Hadn't heard of anyone with success with the EBC springs so assumed they were at fault
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - ChristoT - 14-03-14
Don't suppose you still have those barely used springs?
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - midden - 14-03-14
(08-03-14, 10:22 PM)ChristoT link Wrote: Spacers behind the engine sprocket, maybe.
Have you seen the threads regarding The fzs600 front sprocket nut? :rolleyes
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - ChristoT - 14-03-14
(14-03-14, 09:48 PM)midden link Wrote: [quote author=ChristoT link=topic=11731.msg132783#msg132783 date=1394313768]
Spacers behind the engine sprocket, maybe.
Have you seen the threads regarding The fzs600 front sprocket nut? :rolleyes
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Only a problem if it's over-torqued. A Talon sprocket should do the trick.
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - midden - 14-03-14
I was thinking on basis of cure being thicker nut which uses all thread on the shaft, so spacers behind would effectively reduce the advantage of extra thread.
talon sprocket?
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - ChristoT - 14-03-14
(14-03-14, 10:13 PM)midden link Wrote: I was thinking on basis of cure being thicker nut which uses all thread on the shaft, so spacers behind would effectively reduce the advantage of extra thread.
talon sprocket?
Well...
The cure is to a problem that doesn't exist. Accoding to the God of Fazer Engines (Deefer), the sprocket nut should be torqued to either 90Nm or 100Nm (I can't remember which), then the spinning engine does the final tweak up. An air gun torques to 120Nm, which is too much. When the engine does its spin up, it overtorques the nut, risking stripping the thread. The thicker nut allows more "give", and a greater tolerance.
If I understand correctly, the Talon sprocket is shaped to offset the teeth, with the central part staying in position. I certainly don't plan on chucking a couple of washers behind the sprocket!!
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - mickvp - 14-03-14
something like this would be the way to go I think
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIQUE-OFFSET-FRONT-SPROCKET-YAMAHA-MADE-TO-ORDER-/251288315500
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - Dead Eye - 14-03-14
(14-03-14, 09:29 PM)ChristoT link Wrote: Don't suppose you still have those barely used springs?
Unfortunately not; they were donated for free to a lucky foccer on the forums over 6 months ago... I forget who now - think it was Fazerider
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - ChristoT - 14-03-14
(14-03-14, 11:14 PM)mickvp link Wrote: something like this would be the way to go I think
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIQUE-OFFSET-FRONT-SPROCKET-YAMAHA-MADE-TO-ORDER-/251288315500
That's the one!
Hopefully a bit cheaper though! :eek
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - Dead Eye - 15-03-14
Ok, so the sprocket is a solvable problem, but have you checked clearances against the frame and sprocket cover?
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - ChristoT - 15-03-14
I'm going to attempt a clearance check in the next few weeks. Debating whether to mock up some aluminum spacers to clearance, wheel alignment etc.
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - midden - 15-03-14
Oooo it is getting exciting
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - Lawrence - 15-03-14
Don't forget the front sprocket nut has a lip round the edge. You could shave that off and space the sprocket out a couple of mm without affecting the amount of thread being used at all.
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - ChristoT - 16-03-14
Mini update!
Both good news and bad!
The good news: the selector forks are fine. So after washing, then engine's going back together.
The bad news (kinda): I'm going to have to abandon the Bros arm idea for the time being. It's going to be way too much work and money to modify UNLESS! There's a Foccer who can weld aluminium to structural quality who can help me out on it cheaply.
But never fear! I still plan on changing the swingarm: what's the point of a tricked up rear end if you have a boring stock swingarm? The (new) hunt begins! I'm looking at something like a Thunderace arm: any other ideas?
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - mickvp - 16-03-14
I have an idea. Build the standard fazer, and enjoy it
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - ChristoT - 16-03-14
(16-03-14, 01:31 AM)mickvp link Wrote: I have an idea. Build the standard fazer, and enjoy it
Nah, that's boring! I really like the potential for individualisation a custom offers.
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - JoeRock - 16-03-14
(16-03-14, 01:58 AM)ChristoT link Wrote: [quote author=mickvp link=topic=11731.msg134574#msg134574 date=1394929890]
I have an idea. Build the standard fazer, and enjoy it
Nah, that's boring! I really like the potential for individualisation a custom offers.
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Aren;t really gonna be any swingarms that are a particularly easy fit mate, unless you just happen to get lucky?
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - ChristoT - 16-03-14
(16-03-14, 02:34 AM)JoeRock link Wrote: [quote author=ChristoT link=topic=11731.msg134575#msg134575 date=1394931508]
[quote author=mickvp link=topic=11731.msg134574#msg134574 date=1394929890]
I have an idea. Build the standard fazer, and enjoy it
Nah, that's boring! I really like the potential for individualisation a custom offers.
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Aren;t really gonna be any swingarms that are a particularly easy fit mate, unless you just happen to get lucky?
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Whatever I get will need modding, it's just a case of how much it needs. The Bros was unfortunate in that nothing actually adds up: the suspension is different, the fixing to the frame is different, the chain is different... and so on and so forth. At least it was only £50 off ebay (and back there it shall most likely go!)
There's a VFR swingarm that Deefer says might be a a better fit, so I'm going to trawl ebay, as I'm still a sucker for that single sided look!
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - red98 - 16-03-14
morning christo........use the bros arm to get the dimensions you require,a drawing would be good,and then get yourself down to your local breaker,the bigger the better and see if he will let you rummage through his stock,plenty to choose from there and you might get lucky with something you would never of guessed might fit sat on your backside at home
...will also give you lots of new idea`s :rolleyes or......go all retro and fit twin shocks.........................................
Re: Project Fazer: The build thread - rustyrider - 17-03-14
(16-03-14, 01:31 AM)mickvp link Wrote: I have an idea. Build the standard fazer, and enjoy itI've been saying that all along. A few cosmetic mods maybe, if that's what you want (although personally I think they got the styling about spot on in the first place) but leave the mechanics alone.