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Re: Oil Additives - Farjo - 10-03-13
(09-03-13, 09:53 PM)Dead Eye link Wrote: [quote author=Farjo link=topic=6291.msg62498#msg62498 date=1362856900]I'm a GB measurements guy and get confused by metric, however should that be 25ml to 500ml? Otherwise 2.5L (which I presume is 2,500ml) of oil would need 10 bottles of Active8? Or is one bottle 1,250ml?
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=6291.msg62474#msg62474 date=1362846699]
It says 25ml to 50ml per litre of oil.
Bike's got a 2.5 litre sump.
First time just stick the whole 125ml bottle in your bike. Then what i did was put half a bottle in after 4 oil changes, although they say 5.
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Assuming; 25ml to 50ml per litre
2500ml = 2.5 litres
Amount of Activ8 = 2.5 * 25 to 50 = 62.5ml to 125ml
[/quote]Aha! I was reading it as "25ml to 50ml of oil", which makes no sense now I think of it :lol
Re: Oil Additives - darrsi - 10-03-13
(10-03-13, 02:25 AM)Farjo link Wrote: [quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=6291.msg62511#msg62511 date=1362862415]I'm a GB measurements guy and get confused by metric, however should that be 25ml to 500ml? Otherwise 2.5L (which I presume is 2,500ml) of oil would need 10 bottles of Active8? Or is one bottle 1,250ml?
[quote author=Farjo link=topic=6291.msg62498#msg62498 date=1362856900]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=6291.msg62474#msg62474 date=1362846699]
It says 25ml to 50ml per litre of oil.
Bike's got a 2.5 litre sump.
First time just stick the whole 125ml bottle in your bike. Then what i did was put half a bottle in after 4 oil changes, although they say 5.
[/quote]
Assuming; 25ml to 50ml per litre
2500ml = 2.5 litres
Amount of Activ8 = 2.5 * 25 to 50 = 62.5ml to 125ml
[/quote]Aha! I was reading it as "25ml to 50ml of oil", which makes no sense now I think of it :lol
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Here you go: http://activ8lubricants.com/used%20in
Re: Oil Additives - Disky - 14-03-13
Well, my bike has been away for months,,,,,, got 12ml of activate and stuck it in the car, a 2010 Fiesta TDCI with 106,000 miles on it (im a driving instructor) Resent the odo and economy thingy,, and it went from 48 to 53mpg within a few hours,,, and it was being driven on test so no special treatment from me.
Bike next
Re: Oil Additives - darrsi - 14-03-13
(14-03-13, 01:36 AM)Disky link Wrote: Well, my bike has been away for months,,,,,, got 12ml of activate and stuck it in the car, a 2010 Fiesta TDCI with 106,000 miles on it (im a driving instructor) Resent the odo and economy thingy,, and it went from 48 to 53mpg within a few hours,,, and it was being driven on test so no special treatment from me.
Bike next
[size=1.45em]Hoorah again....... [/size] :woot :woot :woot
Re: Oil Additives - Lawrence - 14-03-13
I don't believe adding that stuff increased your fuel economy by 5mpg. If an increase of more than 10% was possible don't you think manufacturers would use/recommend it?
Re: Oil Additives - darrsi - 14-03-13
(14-03-13, 10:53 AM)Lawrence link Wrote: I don't believe adding that stuff increased your fuel economy by 5mpg. If an increase of more than 10% was possible don't you think manufacturers would use/recommend it?
It's an after market product, that's how businesses make money!
That's no different to saying why didn't Yamaha put a stainless exhaust, better lights, etc, on the Fazer. Or why are there different types of fuel, unleaded or super, or different prices of oils?
It's a money thing.......
Re: Oil Additives - Lawrence - 14-03-13
(14-03-13, 11:46 AM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Lawrence link=topic=6291.msg63363#msg63363 date=1363254787]
I don't believe adding that stuff increased your fuel economy by 5mpg. If an increase of more than 10% was possible don't you think manufacturers would use/recommend it?
It's an after market product, that's how businesses make money!
That's no different to saying why didn't Yamaha put a stainless exhaust, better lights, etc, on the Fazer. Or why are there different types of fuel, unleaded or super, or different prices of oils?
It's a money thing.......
[/quote]These days in particular mpg/emissions tends to be pretty high on a lot of peoples list when buying a car. If a manufacturer can increase it by over 10% by adding a couple of quids worth of additive they would.
Re: Oil Additives - darrsi - 14-03-13
(14-03-13, 11:50 AM)Lawrence link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=6291.msg63368#msg63368 date=1363257964]
[quote author=Lawrence link=topic=6291.msg63363#msg63363 date=1363254787]
I don't believe adding that stuff increased your fuel economy by 5mpg. If an increase of more than 10% was possible don't you think manufacturers would use/recommend it?
It's an after market product, that's how businesses make money!
That's no different to saying why didn't Yamaha put a stainless exhaust, better lights, etc, on the Fazer. Or why are there different types of fuel, unleaded or super, or different prices of oils?
It's a money thing.......
[/quote]These days in particular mpg/emissions tends to be pretty high on a lot of peoples list when buying a car. If a manufacturer can increase it by over 10% by adding a couple of quids worth of additive they would.
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Only one way to find out isn't there......
Re: Oil Additives - Lawrence - 14-03-13
In this case it's down to how it's been driven. 48mpg in a diesel fiesta isn't that good.
Re: Oil Additives - darrsi - 14-03-13
(14-03-13, 01:36 AM)Disky link Wrote: Well, my bike has been away for months,,,,,, got 12ml of activate and stuck it in the car, a 2010 Fiesta TDCI with 106,000 miles on it (im a driving instructor) Resent the odo and economy thingy,, and it went from 48 to 53mpg within a few hours,,, and it was being driven on test so no special treatment from me.
Bike next
I presume you mean 125ml, if it was 12ml than that really was a miracle..... :eek
125ml is for a bike, i think you're supposed to use double that for a car, but if you feel like it's doing something then happy days!
Re: Oil Additives - darrsi - 14-03-13
(14-03-13, 11:55 AM)Lawrence link Wrote: In this case it's down to how it's been driven. 48mpg in a diesel fiesta isn't that good.
Wouldn't have a clue, i know sod all about cars, other than that they get in the way...... :grumble
Re: Oil Additives - Lawrence - 14-03-13
(14-03-13, 11:59 AM)darrsi link Wrote: Wouldn't have a clue, i know sod all about cars, other than that they get in the way...... :grumble
I regularly get 50+ out of a mondeo tdci with 144k on the clock. Hasn't even had an oil change since I've had it, let alone any additives :look
Re: Oil Additives - JamesTaylor - 19-06-14
I'm using the Metabond products (Metabond 4T) in my bike. It was developed to reduce friction and save the engine. Also provides more power. Got it from ebay, but I think they have webshop as well :rollin
(12-02-13, 12:26 AM)Disky link Wrote: Does anyone use any oil additives in the engine oil ?
Was thinking of using "Activ8" friction reducer
any advice ?
Re: Oil Additives - darrsi - 20-06-14
Oh my.........what have you done :lol
Re: Oil Additives - His Dudeness - 20-06-14
(20-06-14, 06:13 AM)darrsi link Wrote: Oh my.........what have you done :lolIf your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work :lol
Re: Oil Additives - darrsi - 20-06-14
(20-06-14, 12:14 PM)His Dudeness link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=6291.msg154818#msg154818 date=1403241225]If your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work :lol
Oh my.........what have you done :lol
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I'm not being drawn in :tape :tape :tape
Re: Oil Additives - thunderpantz - 20-06-14
I used ZX1 in mine last year, engine seemed much quieter and 'free' after. Im all for additives.
Re: Oil Additives - His Dudeness - 20-06-14
(20-06-14, 03:27 PM)thunderpantz link Wrote: I used ZX1 in mine last year, engine seemed much quieter and 'free' after. Im all for additives.Does the engine feel happier like it's had a good back massage? :lol
Re: Oil Additives - darrsi - 20-06-14
(20-06-14, 12:14 PM)His Dudeness link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=6291.msg154818#msg154818 date=1403241225]If your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work :lol
Oh my.........what have you done :lol
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What if it outlasts everyone else's, it'll be too late then, and you won't know what you've missed?
Re: Oil Additives - His Dudeness - 20-06-14
(20-06-14, 04:59 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=His Dudeness link=topic=6291.msg154850#msg154850 date=1403262840]If your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work :lol
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=6291.msg154818#msg154818 date=1403241225]
Oh my.........what have you done :lol
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What if it outlasts everyone else's, it'll be too late then, and you won't know what you've missed?
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If in 100 years your engine is mint and mine has slight wear I'll agree it's made a difference :lol With all this stuff if you think in your head it's running better then in a way it has worked.