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Re: Whoever posts last is best - agricola - 01-12-22

(01-12-22, 08:52 PM)fazerscotty link Wrote: [quote author=agricola link=topic=25540.msg330779#msg330779 date=1669895561]
[quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg330777#msg330777 date=1669878833]
I suppose hoteliers are between a rock and a hard place. After the covid shut down, the offer of, in some cases, one years full occupancy, is hard to turn down.
We need someone like the ex Australian PM Tony Abbott. He doled out hard measures against illegals. He expected, and got, flack from the left, but got the job done.

But I don't see the situation changing. Having more of our civil servants based in offices in France wont make a difference, neither will giving the French more money. Until we start sending them back to France, or the country in which they first arrived at in Europe, they'll continue to boat over here for 4 star accommodation. Like many other of the problems facing the nation, govt doesn't appear to have actionable plans in place
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But it's not just this government that's at fault - somebody ('97 - '09) invited them!

Anyway, at this rate, at least one of us is going to get reported/arrested for hate speech lol lol :rolleyes
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Id go further back than that. Govts for several decades have failed to take longer term actions to safeguard the nations interests, of both parties

Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 02-12-22

(01-12-22, 12:52 PM)agricola link Wrote: [quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg330777#msg330777 date=1669878833]
I suppose hoteliers are between a rock and a hard place. After the covid shut down, the offer of, in some cases, one years full occupancy, is hard to turn down.
We need someone like the ex Australian PM Tony Abbott. He doled out hard measures against illegals. He expected, and got, flack from the left, but got the job done.

But I don't see the situation changing. Having more of our civil servants based in offices in France wont make a difference, neither will giving the French more money. Until we start sending them back to France, or the country in which they first arrived at in Europe, they'll continue to boat over here for 4 star accommodation. Like many other of the problems facing the nation, govt doesn't appear to have actionable plans in place
[/quote]It is a waste ploughing more money into the French effort to prevent them. France is glad to see the back of them, and why wouldn’t they, as they become somebody(us) else’s problem. With all the hand wringing regarding the conditions at Manston, and lawyers predicting getting compo for the illegals having to endure such conditions, is every country expected to have palatial reception centres for illegal migrants. I thought the key word, illegal, meant not legal, against the law, and you’re on the next boat/flight back.

Re: Whoever posts last is best - agricola - 03-12-22

While out jogging yesterday, I got chatting to another long time town resident. She lives close to a Council run care home which was closed down this autumn despite a strong campaign by local councillors and residents to keep it open. Allegedly, it was no longer fit for purpose and the Council had no funds for making it so. So all of the residents were passed on elsewhere. She has her finger on the local pulse and told me that the care home will, in the very near future, be accommodating illegal immigrants, just like the two hotels elsewhere in the town, and the one a mile just up the road in the next village. A bit of searching reveals the extent of the problem across the country, with private companies now commissioned by the govt to seek out and find accommodation for them. One such company has increased its profit in the last year from just £4.5m to £28m, with 37,000 illegals in approx 200 hotels across the country, at a cost to the taxpayer of £6.8 million a day. If that is the case, it will appear that the Council has chucked out the old folk, tarted up the care home, and prioritised the illegals

Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 03-12-22

(03-12-22, 05:19 PM)agricola link Wrote: While out jogging yesterday, I got chatting to another long time town resident. She lives close to a Council run care home which was closed down this autumn despite a strong campaign by local councillors and residents to keep it open. Allegedly, it was no longer fit for purpose and the Council had no funds for making it so. So all of the residents were passed on elsewhere. She has her finger on the local pulse and told me that the care home will, in the very near future, be accommodating illegal immigrants, just like the two hotels elsewhere in the town, and the one a mile just up the road in the next village. A bit of searching reveals the extent of the problem across the country, with private companies now commissioned by the govt to seek out and find accommodation for them. One such company has increased its profit in the last year from just £4.5m to £28m, with 37,000 illegals in approx 200 hotels across the country, at a cost to the taxpayer of £6.8 million a day. If that is the case, it will appear that the Council has chucked out the old folk, tarted up the care home, and prioritised the illegals

This is, unfortunately, the modern way.

Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 05-12-22

(03-12-22, 09:08 PM)fazerscotty link Wrote: [quote author=agricola link=topic=25540.msg330790#msg330790 date=1670084399]
While out jogging yesterday, I got chatting to another long time town resident. She lives close to a Council run care home which was closed down this autumn despite a strong campaign by local councillors and residents to keep it open. Allegedly, it was no longer fit for purpose and the Council had no funds for making it so. So all of the residents were passed on elsewhere. She has her finger on the local pulse and told me that the care home will, in the very near future, be accommodating illegal immigrants, just like the two hotels elsewhere in the town, and the one a mile just up the road in the next village. A bit of searching reveals the extent of the problem across the country, with private companies now commissioned by the govt to seek out and find accommodation for them. One such company has increased its profit in the last year from just £4.5m to £28m, with 37,000 illegals in approx 200 hotels across the country, at a cost to the taxpayer of £6.8 million a day. If that is the case, it will appear that the Council has chucked out the old folk, tarted up the care home, and prioritised the illegals

Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 05-12-22

(05-12-22, 07:55 AM)robbo link Wrote: [quote author=fazerscotty link=topic=25540.msg330793#msg330793 date=1670098107]
[quote author=agricola link=topic=25540.msg330790#msg330790 date=1670084399]
While out jogging yesterday, I got chatting to another long time town resident. She lives close to a Council run care home which was closed down this autumn despite a strong campaign by local councillors and residents to keep it open. Allegedly, it was no longer fit for purpose and the Council had no funds for making it so. So all of the residents were passed on elsewhere. She has her finger on the local pulse and told me that the care home will, in the very near future, be accommodating illegal immigrants, just like the two hotels elsewhere in the town, and the one a mile just up the road in the next village. A bit of searching reveals the extent of the problem across the country, with private companies now commissioned by the govt to seek out and find accommodation for them. One such company has increased its profit in the last year from just £4.5m to £28m, with 37,000 illegals in approx 200 hotels across the country, at a cost to the taxpayer of £6.8 million a day. If that is the case, it will appear that the Council has chucked out the old folk, tarted up the care home, and prioritised the illegals

Re: Whoever posts last is best - agricola - 06-12-22

(05-12-22, 04:39 PM)fazerscotty link Wrote: [quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg330799#msg330799 date=1670223341]
[quote author=fazerscotty link=topic=25540.msg330793#msg330793 date=1670098107]
[quote author=agricola link=topic=25540.msg330790#msg330790 date=1670084399]
While out jogging yesterday, I got chatting to another long time town resident. She lives close to a Council run care home which was closed down this autumn despite a strong campaign by local councillors and residents to keep it open. Allegedly, it was no longer fit for purpose and the Council had no funds for making it so. So all of the residents were passed on elsewhere. She has her finger on the local pulse and told me that the care home will, in the very near future, be accommodating illegal immigrants, just like the two hotels elsewhere in the town, and the one a mile just up the road in the next village. A bit of searching reveals the extent of the problem across the country, with private companies now commissioned by the govt to seek out and find accommodation for them. One such company has increased its profit in the last year from just £4.5m to £28m, with 37,000 illegals in approx 200 hotels across the country, at a cost to the taxpayer of £6.8 million a day. If that is the case, it will appear that the Council has chucked out the old folk, tarted up the care home, and prioritised the illegals

This is, unfortunately, the modern way.
[/quote]But it shouldn’t be. Getting out of ECHR would certainly be a step in the right direction in stemming the numbers coming, together with reducing the number of those already here. £6.8 million a day is obscene.
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[size=1em]Yes, it is, and it's hidden in plain sight, whilst everyone else gets upset about LGBTQVC rights. There's always a hidden story going on in the background, which with the media pushing the popular story, the truth seems to get forgotten about. [/size]
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and if it couldn't get any worse, the govt now wants to detain them for longer, which will mean more hotels becoming holding centres (without the appropriate "change of use" planning approval)

Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 07-12-22

(06-12-22, 05:45 PM)agricola link Wrote: [quote author=fazerscotty link=topic=25540.msg330804#msg330804 date=1670254763]
[quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg330799#msg330799 date=1670223341]
[quote author=fazerscotty link=topic=25540.msg330793#msg330793 date=1670098107]
[quote author=agricola link=topic=25540.msg330790#msg330790 date=1670084399]
While out jogging yesterday, I got chatting to another long time town resident. She lives close to a Council run care home which was closed down this autumn despite a strong campaign by local councillors and residents to keep it open. Allegedly, it was no longer fit for purpose and the Council had no funds for making it so. So all of the residents were passed on elsewhere. She has her finger on the local pulse and told me that the care home will, in the very near future, be accommodating illegal immigrants, just like the two hotels elsewhere in the town, and the one a mile just up the road in the next village. A bit of searching reveals the extent of the problem across the country, with private companies now commissioned by the govt to seek out and find accommodation for them. One such company has increased its profit in the last year from just £4.5m to £28m, with 37,000 illegals in approx 200 hotels across the country, at a cost to the taxpayer of £6.8 million a day. If that is the case, it will appear that the Council has chucked out the old folk, tarted up the care home, and prioritised the illegals

Re: Whoever posts last is best - agricola - 07-12-22

Nope. Cant remember what I said now

Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 07-12-22

(07-12-22, 01:00 PM)agricola link Wrote: Nope. Cant remember what I said now

Lol, I get like that too............ :lol

Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 08-12-22

On the ECHR subject, I've just read an article by David Davis, who said that Sweden are signed up to the ECHR and don't take Albanians or anybody from safe countries, and send them straight back. We might be hamstrung by the anti-slavery ruling on this front however. Countries apparently don't have to follow ECHR guidelines, as we didn't in maybe 2010 when we rejected giving the vote to prisoners.

Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 08-12-22

(08-12-22, 09:43 AM)robbo link Wrote: On the ECHR subject, I've just read an article by David Davis, who said that Sweden are signed up to the ECHR and don't take Albanians or anybody from safe countries, and send them straight back. We might be hamstrung by the anti-slavery ruling on this front however. Countries apparently don't have to follow ECHR guidelines, as we didn't in maybe 2010 when we rejected giving the vote to prisoners.

I'm of the opinion, that if you've been found guilty of committing a crime, where a custodial sentence is handed out, then any privileges, such as voting, access to social media etc, should be removed and not given back until a period of rehabilitation has been carried out in the community.
I'm also of the opinion that the Schengen agreement was the worst thing ever for Europe. Free and unrestricted movement. Great for immigrants!

Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 08-12-22

Totally agree on both points :thumbup

Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 11-12-22

(08-12-22, 08:45 PM)robbo link Wrote: Totally agree on both points :thumbup

I've often thought about going into politics lol...... :rollin :rollin :rollin

Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 12-12-22

Well, as an amateur you speak far more sense than some of the clowns that actually do it for a living :lol

Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 14-12-22

(12-12-22, 10:11 PM)robbo link Wrote: Well, as an amateur you speak far more sense than some of the clowns that actually do it for a living :lol

:rollin :rollin :rollin the only thing I can't do is juggle lol

Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 18-12-22

(14-12-22, 09:54 AM)fazerscotty link Wrote: [quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg330866#msg330866 date=1670879505]
Well, as an amateur you speak far more sense than some of the clowns that actually do it for a living :lol

:rollin :rollin :rollin the only thing I can't do is juggle lol
[/quote]Any good on a monocycle? :lol

Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 20-12-22

(18-12-22, 04:10 PM)robbo link Wrote: [quote author=fazerscotty link=topic=25540.msg330867#msg330867 date=1671008056]
[quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg330866#msg330866 date=1670879505]
Well, as an amateur you speak far more sense than some of the clowns that actually do it for a living :lol

:rollin :rollin :rollin the only thing I can't do is juggle lol
[/quote]Any good on a monocycle? :lol
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On a motorcycle yes. :rollin :rollin :rollin

Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 20-12-22

:lol . I should have said unicycle, same thing though. My neighbours brother lives in a posh road not far from Biggin Hill Aerodrome, and his very rich neighbour always challenges any visitors to ride his unicycle the length of his drive. The reward has ranged between £1k to £5k. His money is still in his pocket :lol

Re: Whoever posts last is best - Grahamm - 21-12-22

When I used to go juggling, I knew a guy who rode a 5' unicycle.

I should introduce him to this bloke and split the money 50/50!