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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - Wouter (Retrofitlab.com) - 13-08-14 (31-05-14, 01:35 PM)dcurzon link Wrote: I've just spent a couple of hours fitting Wouter's loom, it's made it a much neater install.Relay bolted to the horn mount on the left, with the trigger connected to the left light fitting.I put the ballasts behind the battery section and ran the extension cables nicely under the tank. 12v feed for high beam taken from the rhs light fitting.Job jobbed! I've lost the 'flash to pass', unless the lights are switched on anyway (they usually are), but has made a nicer install and a better power source, and I now have dual high beam.Will grab some video footage tonight when it gets dark.Wouter - some feedback for you - make the ballast to bulb extensions 12" longer then the ballasts would comfortably fit in the luggage section under the seat. Also, the H1 bulb used by the fazer seems to have a h4 or h7 connector (not sure which) so I had to make a connection rather then plug n play. Thanks for the feedback Darren! Will definitely add that length, we're having a new batch manufactured pretty soon. You're right about the connectors. Most bikes use H7 bulbs, at this time we only have H7 connectors on the wire harnesses, but in the future we will also add other connectors, or adapters to our product line. (11-08-14, 07:14 PM)keratos link Wrote: I'm not exactly sure what UK rules are, so can't really argue on that one. Here in the Netherlands it's no problem to have aftermarket xenon in your motorcycle, even if you do it the wrong way: xenon bulbs in halogen reflectors. From your experience, I can really understand that you think these kind of 'great mods' is dangerous for other traffic. But in fact, this (projectors) is the only correct way to perform a xenon upgrade. If you would spend some time to study the characteristics of light sources, halogen and xenons, you would find out that these projectors generate the perfect beam pattern since they are designed for a xenon light source. There is absolutely no glare, making it 100% safe for other traffic. Of course there are the authorities who might not like it, but are speaking from the same experience you probably have: xenon bulbs in headlights designed for a completely different light source. In fact I'm 100% sure that if these authorities would really take a proper look at beam patterns etcetera, they would have to conclude that there is nothing wrong with an upgrade like this. But the "boy racer HID car upgrades" (I like the way you put it :lol ) made things complicated. Anyway. This evening I finished the video, uploaded it to Youtube, and the kit is available for order now on our website! Yamaha FZS600 Fazer Bi-xenon retroquick kit Yamaha FZS600 Fazer bad headlight fix (Bi-xenon projector kit) Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - MarkWales - 17-08-14 Great video Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - darrsi - 18-08-14 Is it just me or does anyone else have the same feeling that "something" is gonna foc up if i attempt to do this, whether it be breaking one of those little clips that need taking out with pliers, or just having trouble removing the sealed headlight unit? :'( I get the impression it's worth buying a used headlight unit to work on so you can take your time and at least have your bike in working condition, then when all is well sell your old headlights on for the next person to try on, if they're in good enough nick. Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - Wouter (Retrofitlab.com) - 18-08-14 Those plastic clips will not break very quickly, pretty good quality material. But of course you could try it with a spare headlight. After finishing the headlight you can sell your original headlight, so you'll have no extra costs ![]() Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - darrsi - 18-08-14 (18-08-14, 02:28 PM)Wouter link Wrote: Those plastic clips will not break very quickly, pretty good quality material. It's just things like the heat gun (i presume) for instance which most people aren't gonna have to hand.. The video's great and really informative, but i sense that it wasn't their very first attempt at it, which for everyone else it would be. Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - Wouter (Retrofitlab.com) - 18-08-14 That's right, we've done it a lot of times. If you do not have a heatgun, you can use your oven as well. Yes I would say that for 95% of our customers it's their first time opening a headlight, and I can tell you that a lot of people have succesfully opened and retrofitted headlights which are a lot harder than this headlight. This one really is not so hard. If you want you can also send us your headlight and we can perform the retrofit for you completely. http://www.retrofitlab.com/retrofit-service.html Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - darrsi - 18-08-14 (18-08-14, 03:33 PM)Wouter link Wrote: That's right, we've done it a lot of times. If you do not have a heatgun, you can use your oven as well. Yes I would say that for 95% of our customers it's their first time opening a headlight, and I can tell you that a lot of people have succesfully opened and retrofitted headlights which are a lot harder than this headlight. This one really is not so hard. I was wondering if there was that option, that's good to know, thanks. ![]() Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - adeejaysdelight - 18-08-14 Quality video. Great, if you have the money... Cheap option. Yesterday I baked my headlight unit in the oven (20 minutes at 70 degrees C). I did this a couple of years ago, but this time I was fitting 10k HiD units upon reassembly. I also sealed the unit to stop any water ingress. I have not had it out on the road yet, but its working :thumbup Here is a couple of pictures. Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - darrsi - 19-08-14 I don't mean to sound pessimistic, more realistic, i can just imagine some people having a headlight chocolate cake and thinking "Oh foc!" :o Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - darrsi - 19-08-14 More impressive pictures though......it's gonna have to be done. ![]() Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - adeejaysdelight - 19-08-14 (19-08-14, 01:03 AM)darrsi link Wrote: I don't mean to sound pessimistic, more realistic, i can just imagine some people having a headlight chocolate cake and thinking "Oh foc!" :o Unless your a chef, use a timer. I can't stress this enough. An independent thermostat too.The one built in to the oven won't even be close. Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - darrsi - 19-08-14 (19-08-14, 11:31 AM)adeejaysdelight link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=11494.msg163271#msg163271 date=1408406633] Unless your a chef, use a timer. I can't stress this enough. An independent thermostat too.The one built in to the oven won't even be close. [/quote] Noted, cheers fella. Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - apage16 - 22-10-14 Anyone having reservations about baking their headlight, check this out. I know it works, because i made it! :rollin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIG3OQB7xz0 Incidentally, another great mod is to uprate and shorten your headlight wiring, and then use relays being tripped by the original wiring to turn the lights on. Apparently a 10% voltage drop from battery to light can cause as much as 30% reduction in brightness. I checked my setup out before and after this mod and I was getting just over 11V at the headlight. 3V lost!! It's because the thin, poor quality wiring needs to go from the battery, to the switches on the handlebars, back to the loom and then out to the headlights. And then BACK again! So I wacked a big fat cable (Slightly smaller than the main battery cables, I wanted headroom for extra lighting!) from the battery (via a 30A Maxi Fuse) to the front fusebox. In there I had 2 relays which, through various routings, mimic the operating of the standard setup, and then carried 2 more not so fat (but still way fatter than standard) cables to the headlights. The relays are operated by the original lighting wiring that comes from the switchgear. But these crappy thin, corroded old wires no longer carry any real power. Now, the headlights are getting a healthy 13.9V!! QUITE an improvement. So now my Osram Nightbreaker plus bulbs are running at FULL capacity and they are a lot brighter than with stock wiring. And to make sure, I popped on a spotlight between the forks with another nightbreaker in it! You can see in this video that when it gets totally dark, I can actually see. And this is after I've gotten rid of the HID Projector headlight for EU reasons. Skip forward to 14:45 if you just want to see the headlights in the dark. http://youtu.be/5TzYfKdm8SQ Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - pilgo - 22-10-14 thought your'd sold the Fazer mr page ? Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - apage16 - 22-10-14 Sadly, yes. But I've got shed loads of footage backlog from the good times! Plus the existing videos serve as a reminder of when I was happy! Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - useless.anguish - 25-10-14 I've got Andy's old bike "Polly" now and she's a dream. The lights are absolutely superb! Re: The great/rubbish light debacle... - apage16 - 25-10-14 Hello David! Glad to hear she's serving well! Unless you've changed the bulbs since you took her away from me, then a set of nightbreaker unlimited or Phillips extreme vision will yield yet further lighting improvements. I was sadly too poor/tight to replace like for like when the bulbs last went! Keep her shiny! |