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Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Val - 30-11-15

(30-11-15, 03:02 PM)Frosties link Wrote: Good shout  :lol :lol . Been thinking though......what happens if it's a faggott or a lesbo eh - what then ?  :eek

If there are two lesbos and they are kissing each other I do not have problem with that at all, dreams come true  :rollin :rollin

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Slaninar - 30-11-15


Be careful what you wish for...    :rollin

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Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Frosties - 30-11-15

:woot :woot

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - maddog04 - 01-12-15

Good shout  :lol :lol . Been thinking though......what happens if it's a faggott or a lesbo eh - what then ?  :eek
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they'd start mincing on the spot




and slaninar.......bang outta order, we need lipstick lez's

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Punkstig - 02-12-15



(30-11-15, 02:29 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=18810.msg217328#msg217328 date=1448655765]
Look it up, I think you'll find that pedestrians have 'a right of way'.
If a pedestrian has set foot on a zebra crossing, they have priority and traffic must stop for them.
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This isn't how the highway code is set, and a mistake too many people make-
Zebra crossings are a two way thing, pedestrians must wait until vehicles give way to them to cross, as such vehicles must give way to pedestrians waiting* to cross

What do too many people do?
Walk up to the crossing and just step out.

So what's the major problem here?
It's pissing down with rain and someone just steps out thinking 'they have priority' you end up attempting an emergency stop but because the road is slippy the pedestrian ends up getting knee capped by a sliding motorbike!

Yes, it's happened, no not to me, the bike rider was declared to have done no wrong- pedestrian fault!

This isn't a dig at you grahamm, too many people decide to interpret the highway code as they see fit, and they're wrong!

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Slaninar - 02-12-15

I hate (whether on bicycle, motorcycle or in a car) when pedestrians stand by the crossing waiting for you to STOP (children and elderly excluded). Can't you see I'm slowing down, waving/waiting for you to pass?! Most of the time they would have passed without me needing to stop, or slow down much, but they just stand still, until I reach the crossing, waiting for me to come to a full stop. Most of the time I just smile and say thank you and ride on, without stopping.

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 02-12-15

Had a fella walk out on me the other day going home from work but it was a bit of a tough one.


Because firstly, he just looked like a very pissed Irishman.......but secondly he had a white stick!


So I did the decent thing and refrained from using my air horn and rode around him.


Dunno if he ever made it to the other side?  :lol

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Grahamm - 03-12-15

(02-12-15, 01:43 PM)Punkstig link Wrote: [quote author=Grahamm link=topic=18810.msg217556#msg217556 date=1448846959]
If a pedestrian has set foot on a zebra crossing, they have priority and traffic must stop for them.

This isn't how the highway code is set, and a mistake too many people make-
Zebra crossings are a two way thing, pedestrians must wait until vehicles give way to them to cross, as such vehicles must give way to pedestrians waiting* to cross
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Err, not from what I've just read:

Quote:Rule 18

At all crossings. When using any type of crossing you should

    always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross or push a pram onto a crossing
    always cross between the studs or over the zebra markings. Do not cross at the side of the crossing or on the zig-zag lines, as it can be dangerous.

You MUST NOT loiter on any type of crossing.

So "always check that the traffic has stopped" is only a "should", not a "MUST".

Quote:Rule 19

Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped.

This addresses Slainar's comment. Provided they haven't stepped onto the crossing, he's within his rights to keep going (although it's generally considered polite and sensible to stop Smile )

Quote:Rule 195

Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing

    look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross
    you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing

So as soon as they step on the crossing, it's a legal requirement ie "MUST" that you give way, but, again, it's recommended that you watch out for pedestrians and slow down or stop if they're waiting.

Here's the law it's based on:

Quote:Precedence of pedestrians over vehicles at Zebra crossings

25.—(1) Every pedestrian, if he is on the carriageway within the limits of a Zebra crossing, which is not for the time being controlled by a constable in uniform or traffic warden, before any part of a vehicle has entered those limits, shall have precedence within those limits over that vehicle and the driver of the vehicle shall accord such precedence to any such pedestrian.


Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Slaninar - 03-12-15

In my country you must stop when you see a pedestrian approaching the crossing - doesn't have to step on it. NOBODY respects this.  Smile

Also, overtaking a car stopped at zebra crossing is life endangering for pedestrian and the fine is immediate loss of the driver's license + fine.

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 03-12-15

(03-12-15, 02:54 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=Punkstig link=topic=18810.msg217771#msg217771 date=1449060227]

[quote author=Grahamm link=topic=18810.msg217556#msg217556 date=1448846959]
If a pedestrian has set foot on a zebra crossing, they have priority and traffic must stop for them.

This isn't how the highway code is set, and a mistake too many people make-
Zebra crossings are a two way thing, pedestrians must wait until vehicles give way to them to cross, as such vehicles must give way to pedestrians waiting* to cross
[/quote]

Err, not from what I've just read:

Quote:Rule 18

At all crossings. When using any type of crossing you should

    always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross or push a pram onto a crossing
    always cross between the studs or over the zebra markings. Do not cross at the side of the crossing or on the zig-zag lines, as it can be dangerous.

You MUST NOT loiter on any type of crossing.

So "always check that the traffic has stopped" is only a "should", not a "MUST".

Quote:Rule 19

Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped.

This addresses Slainar's comment. Provided they haven't stepped onto the crossing, he's within his rights to keep going (although it's generally considered polite and sensible to stop Smile )

Quote:Rule 195

Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing

    look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross
    you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing

So as soon as they step on the crossing, it's a legal requirement ie "MUST" that you give way, but, again, it's recommended that you watch out for pedestrians and slow down or stop if they're waiting.

Here's the law it's based on:

Quote:Precedence of pedestrians over vehicles at Zebra crossings

25.—(1) Every pedestrian, if he is on the carriageway within the limits of a Zebra crossing, which is not for the time being controlled by a constable in uniform or traffic warden, before any part of a vehicle has entered those limits, shall have precedence within those limits over that vehicle and the driver of the vehicle shall accord such precedence to any such pedestrian.
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The easiest way to think about this is put yourself in a pedestrians position.


I know damn well that if i'm at a zebra crossing there is no way way i am stepping foot on it until all you bastard car and bike drivers/riders have stopped dead, given me eye contact, and maybe waved me across or flashed your lights. If you're still moving i ain't chancing it, and just for the Brucie Bonus, i WILL put my hand up and even say thank you for being the one that stopped to let me cross.
Then whilst cautiously crossing in downright fear of my life, i'll then look at the other side of the road and plead with them fuckers to spare mercy on me as well, and let me reach the other side in one piece, then jump for joy in sheer relief when i finally make it.  :woot


That's how you cross a road.  Confusedmokin

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Punkstig - 03-12-15

The zig zag lines make up the limits of the zebra crossing, hopefully everyone understands this along with rule 25!

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - maddog04 - 03-12-15

there's a pelican crossing by me where you take your life in your hands each time you cross on it. 2 lanes of traffic each way and lane 1 stops but lane 2 sometimes drive through.......BLIND TWATS :evil

I've nearly been hit 3 times and one girl was killed. I always wait for lane 1 to stop now and gingerly await lane 2 stopping on my side, I then look for the same on the opposite side before crossing

the other week some tosser had stopped across the crossing in heavy traffic then the lights went red allowing me to cross. I walked around the rear of this car and slapped it and the window went down. I told him not to stop on the crossing and he replied he'd break me leg if I touched his car again

the red mist came down and I told the 25 stone fat twat to get out the car, called him allsorts from the middle of the crossing whilst drivers were watching. The cnut really got me goat.....................damn.......wrong post :lol

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Frosties - 03-12-15

(03-12-15, 11:46 AM)maddog04 link Wrote: there's a pelican crossing by me where you take your life in your hands each time you cross on it. 2 lanes of traffic each way and lane 1 stops but lane 2 sometimes drive through.......BLIND TWATS :evil

I've nearly been hit 3 times and one girl was killed. I always wait for lane 1 to stop now and gingerly await lane 2 stopping on my side, I then look for the same on the opposite side before crossing

the other week some tosser had stopped across the crossing in heavy traffic then the lights went red allowing me to cross. I walked around the rear of this car and slapped it and the window went down. I told him not to stop on the crossing and he replied he'd break me leg if I touched his car again

the red mist came down and I told the 25 stone fat twat to get out the car, called him allsorts from the middle of the crossing whilst drivers were watching. The cnut really got me goat.....................damn.......wrong post :lol


Arrrr ehhhhh Maddog



Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 03-12-15

I don't even know where to begin....... :rolleyes

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Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Grahamm - 03-12-15

(03-12-15, 07:53 AM)darrsi link Wrote: That's how you cross a road.  Confusedmokin

The reply was about the Highway Code and the Law. Unfortunately what they say and what people do are different matters Sad

Although there was one bit that I found interesting:

Prior to that post, I was under the impression that you mustn't filter past a vehicle that is closest to the crossing (in the Zig-Zag area) whether there is a pedestrian there or not. Now, having read what I posted, it seems that you *can* filter past if they're stopped on the Zig-Zags if they *haven't* stopped for a pedestrian.

I presume that it's been updated to clarify the situation, but I don't have an older version of the HC to hand to check at the moment.

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - maddog04 - 03-12-15

sorry frosties..............are you one of our larger brethren then? :lol











and where did you get me photo? Wink

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - maddog04 - 03-12-15

Gra.....I asked the same question at one of classes, answer was filter to rear bumper of vehicle closest to crossing........fine with that!

I then asked about filtering straight through to the rear of the lead vehicle on the other side of the crossing but still within the zigzags and was told not to pass the crossing just incase a ped appears/decides to walk across and you cannot see them......made sense but cannot say if legal or illegal move
I'd bet a penny to a pound though, if you passed the crossing and hit someone, you'd be on a sticky wicket in court (might even be a 50/50 given by the court)

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Slaninar - 03-12-15

I slow down to walking speed when passing vehicle stopped in front of crossing - just in case I don't see a pedestrian. Even if the car is parked.

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Frosties - 03-12-15

(03-12-15, 02:54 PM)maddog04 link Wrote: sorry frosties..............are you one of our larger brethren then? :lol





and where did you get me photo? Wink


Fellow Scouser fella & ye mum gave me the pic this morning soft lad  :lol

Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Grahamm - 03-12-15

(03-12-15, 02:59 PM)maddog04 link Wrote: I then asked about filtering straight through to the rear of the lead vehicle on the other side of the crossing but still within the zigzags and was told not to pass the crossing just incase a ped appears/decides to walk across and you cannot see them.....

Sure, were I to filter past the front vehicle at a crossing now, I would first make *absolutely* certain it was clear and that there was nobody about to step onto it. Provided there wasn't, I would proceed, but, any uncertainty, I'd stop and wait.

Actually this is useful to me as there's a road in Portsmouth which leads to the bottom of the M275 with a Pelican crossing on it where you get a lot of traffic stopped at the lights on the roundabout at the end and it backs up past the crossing.

It's an S-bend and you can see clearly across it and you don't get so much traffic coming the other way, so it's great for filtering up the queue.

Previously, though, I've often had to stop because there's been a car standing at the crossing and I couldn't legally filter past them, but now I know that if the crossing is clear (and I can see it is), I can proceed instead :thumbup