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Re: Oil recommendation? - Slaninar - 31-05-16

(31-05-16, 07:06 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Slaninar link=topic=13872.msg233265#msg233265 date=1464717676]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=13872.msg233200#msg233200 date=1464640946]
11500 people with 100% positive feedback sounds pretty good to me!


If it's significantly cheaper than "brand name" oils, 11500 100% positive equals, IMO: it's not making any problems after pouring it (clutch slippage, engine noise, or loosing viscosity too rapidly). Does it protect the engine nearly as good as a brand name oil, or will it get worn after several change intervals - only time and independent testing will tell.


While with tyres I'm all about customer feedback, when it comes to oils, I'm more than sceptical.
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So will you believe ME if i say it's fine and great value for money?
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Yes, after you've used it for about 20k miles. Smile

Re: Oil recommendation? - darrsi - 19-06-16

So, finally got my sump nut off earlier, after the bastard rounded off on me the other day, and i've changed the old oil for the new Westway Oil.
First impressions, it's wet and slippery, so we're off to a good start.  :thumbup


I'll keep you posted, although i doubt i'll have very much to report to be honest.


I did buy one of those magnetic sump nuts to replace my OEM one, but the tight buggers must have been on a budget with the metal, it's only got half the threads.
Not that it really matters, you get what you pay for i s'pose, although it does have a 19mm head on the bolt rather than a 17mm one which is better.

Re: Oil recommendation? - mtread - 19-06-16

How much thread do you need? I suggest there's a reason. Means the magnet sits in a hole so collects the sludge better?

Re: Oil recommendation? - darrsi - 19-06-16

(19-06-16, 04:30 PM)mtread link Wrote: How much thread do you need? I suggest there's a reason. Means the magnet sits in a hole so collects the sludge better?

That's a pretty good shout, i never thought of that.


Re: Oil recommendation? - unfazed - 19-06-16

(27-03-15, 02:48 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: The thing is I dont do football, golf ------ anything, my bike is all I have in that respect, I dont spend any money on the bike other than fuel, do all the work myself, so £15 a year isnt much, I would say that £130 on a fuel cap is money to burn. swapping an exhaust for a different sound is money to burn, swapping leavers for stubby ones is money to burn having more than one bike is money to burn, smoking is money to burn. So there you go, blah blah blah.
Who wants to buy my old oil - only done 3000 miles. From a smoke free pet free home will send well packed in a jiffy bag.

Where in Scotland do You live? :lol

Re: Oil recommendation? - unfazed - 20-06-16

I just don't get these posts about Oil Recommendations  :wall

What the foc is wrong with the oil Yamaha recommend for the engine?





Re: Oil recommendation? - darrsi - 20-06-16

(20-06-16, 12:03 AM)unfazed link Wrote: I just don't get these posts about Oil Recommendations  :wall

What the foc is wrong with the oil Yamaha recommend for the engine?


The one i just put in my bike is gonna be absoutely fine.
As you always point out, in this day and age of the possibility of court prosecution by some sad bastard (technical term) companies simply cannot afford to mess about if they want to stay in business.
Worse still, we're talking about engine oil, which primarily HAS to be of a certain spec, and secondly, if wrong, has the capability to wreck an engine.
If their oil even came close to either wrongdoing they'd be shut down immediately.


I found a bargain......i'll be riding to work soon........i expect to get there, with zero complaints from my engine.
In fact, my old oil barely touched 4000 miles anyway so if i really didn't like it, for whatever reason, i could still use that for another 2000 miles.  Big Grin
[size=1em]I'm 100% sure sure it'll be just fine though. [/size]

Re: Oil recommendation? - markeb - 23-07-16

(14-06-15, 10:36 PM)Freza link Wrote: So, I've been riding with Motul oil that I changed 3 months ago and I must say I don't really like it...  :\
The gearbox in particular became noticeably harsher, gear changes louder and harder.
Even my friend, who had Fazer 600 a few years ago said he once put Motul in and never again, due to same reasons.
Gonna switch to something else as soon as possible, probably Castrol.

yup got motul in mine, gearbox horrible.. changing to Castrol soon.

Re: Oil recommendation? - darrsi - 23-07-16

That oil i put in my bike has been absolutely fine, as expected.  :thumbup

Re: Oil recommendation? - Slaninar - 24-07-16

(23-07-16, 09:16 PM)markeb link Wrote: [quote author=Freza link=topic=13872.msg199560#msg199560 date=1434317782]
So, I've been riding with Motul oil that I changed 3 months ago and I must say I don't really like it...  :\
The gearbox in particular became noticeably harsher, gear changes louder and harder.
Even my friend, who had Fazer 600 a few years ago said he once put Motul in and never again, due to same reasons.
Gonna switch to something else as soon as possible, probably Castrol.

yup got motul in mine, gearbox horrible.. changing to Castrol soon.
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And again, I can bet it's the 5100, not the Motul 7100 oil.

Re: Oil recommendation? - Beaconsman - 27-07-16

Thats me knackered then! Have my Fazer 600, and my D4 ZZR1100 currently waiting new sump gasket and side engine gaskets as box blew at 34k..not happy! Hence the switch to Yamaha..

Re: Oil recommendation? - Jules-C - 27-07-16

(19-06-16, 04:04 PM)darrsi link Wrote: So, finally got my sump nut off earlier, after the bastard rounded off on me the other day, and i've changed the old oil for the new Westway Oil.
First impressions, it's wet and slippery, so we're off to a good start.  :thumbup


I'll keep you posted, although i doubt i'll have very much to report to be honest.


I did buy one of those magnetic sump nuts to replace my OEM one, but the tight buggers must have been on a budget with the metal, it's only got half the threads.
Not that it really matters, you get what you pay for i s'pose, although it does have a 19mm head on the bolt rather than a 17mm one which is better.

Be careful you don't over tighten it.  Even at standard torque the thread will have twice the stress on it compared to standard bolt making stripping the thread a possibility

Re: Oil recommendation? - darrsi - 27-07-16

(27-07-16, 12:11 PM)Jules-C link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=13872.msg234784#msg234784 date=1466348656]
So, finally got my sump nut off earlier, after the bastard rounded off on me the other day, and i've changed the old oil for the new Westway Oil.
First impressions, it's wet and slippery, so we're off to a good start.  :thumbup


I'll keep you posted, although i doubt i'll have very much to report to be honest.


I did buy one of those magnetic sump nuts to replace my OEM one, but the tight buggers must have been on a budget with the metal, it's only got half the threads.
Not that it really matters, you get what you pay for i s'pose, although it does have a 19mm head on the bolt rather than a 17mm one which is better.

Be careful you don't over tighten it.  Even at standard torque the thread will have twice the stress on it compared to standard bolt making stripping the thread a possibility
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Can't torque it, because a socket doesn't go anywhere near it, the space simply isn't there, so I just nipped it up.
I'm not heavy handed anyway, it's just that the OEM nut was made from too soft a metal, I was pretty peeved when it rounded off as I knew I'd only nipped it up last time I put it back on.  :\

Re: Oil recommendation? - fazersharp - 27-07-16

(27-07-16, 12:22 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Jules-C link=topic=13872.msg238088#msg238088 date=1469617911]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=13872.msg234784#msg234784 date=1466348656]
So, finally got my sump nut off earlier, after the bastard rounded off on me the other day, and i've changed the old oil for the new Westway Oil.
First impressions, it's wet and slippery, so we're off to a good start.  :thumbup


I'll keep you posted, although i doubt i'll have very much to report to be honest.


I did buy one of those magnetic sump nuts to replace my OEM one, but the tight buggers must have been on a budget with the metal, it's only got half the threads.
Not that it really matters, you get what you pay for i s'pose, although it does have a 19mm head on the bolt rather than a 17mm one which is better.

Be careful you don't over tighten it.  Even at standard torque the thread will have twice the stress on it compared to standard bolt making stripping the thread a possibility
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Can't torque it, because a socket doesn't go anywhere near it, the space simply isn't there, so I just nipped it up.
I'm not heavy handed anyway, it's just that the OEM nut was made from too soft a metal, I was pretty peeved when it rounded off as I knew I'd only nipped it up last time I put it back on.  :\
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I would worry that those magnetic plugs that the magnet will come loose. Also how long is the exit tunnel because I feel that if the plug is short then the flow of oil and any bits will just flow over the exit tunnel without actually dropping or being pulled down.
And yes you can not get a socket on to it, a new crush washer each time is the best bet 

Re: Oil recommendation? - darrsi - 27-07-16

(27-07-16, 01:37 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=13872.msg238089#msg238089 date=1469618571]
[quote author=Jules-C link=topic=13872.msg238088#msg238088 date=1469617911]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=13872.msg234784#msg234784 date=1466348656]
So, finally got my sump nut off earlier, after the bastard rounded off on me the other day, and i've changed the old oil for the new Westway Oil.
First impressions, it's wet and slippery, so we're off to a good start.  :thumbup


I'll keep you posted, although i doubt i'll have very much to report to be honest.


I did buy one of those magnetic sump nuts to replace my OEM one, but the tight buggers must have been on a budget with the metal, it's only got half the threads.
Not that it really matters, you get what you pay for i s'pose, although it does have a 19mm head on the bolt rather than a 17mm one which is better.

Be careful you don't over tighten it.  Even at standard torque the thread will have twice the stress on it compared to standard bolt making stripping the thread a possibility
[/quote]

Can't torque it, because a socket doesn't go anywhere near it, the space simply isn't there, so I just nipped it up.
I'm not heavy handed anyway, it's just that the OEM nut was made from too soft a metal, I was pretty peeved when it rounded off as I knew I'd only nipped it up last time I put it back on.  :\
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I would worry that those magnetic plugs that the magnet will come loose. Also how long is the exit tunnel because I feel that if the plug is short then the flow of oil and any bits will just flow over the exit tunnel without actually dropping or being pulled down.
And yes you can not get a socket on to it, a new crush washer each time is the best bet
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That magnet ain't going anywhere, not sure how they've been secured into the bolt, but the magnet itself won't let go of it anyway.

Re: Oil recommendation? - Slaninar - 29-07-16

(27-07-16, 03:33 PM)darrsi link Wrote: That magnet ain't going anywhere, not sure how they've been secured into the bolt, but the magnet itself won't let go of it anyway.


Because it'c a MAGNET.  Smile
Engine block is aluminium and the bolt is steel.  Smile





Re: Oil recommendation? - darrsi - 29-07-16

(29-07-16, 06:14 AM)Slaninar link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=13872.msg238097#msg238097 date=1469630039]
That magnet ain't going anywhere, not sure how they've been secured into the bolt, but the magnet itself won't let go of it anyway.


Because it'c a MAGNET.  Smile
Engine block is aluminium and the bolt is steel.  Smile
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Thanks for explaining, that'll be why they call it a magnetic bolt then.
Are you up to speed with sarcasm yet?  :lol

Re: Oil recommendation? - Slaninar - 29-07-16

(29-07-16, 07:07 AM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Slaninar link=topic=13872.msg238222#msg238222 date=1469769266]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=13872.msg238097#msg238097 date=1469630039]
That magnet ain't going anywhere, not sure how they've been secured into the bolt, but the magnet itself won't let go of it anyway.


Because it'c a MAGNET.  Smile
Engine block is aluminium and the bolt is steel.  Smile
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Thanks for explaining, that'll be why they call it a magnetic bolt then.
Are you up to speed with sarcasm yet?  :lol
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Nope. Sorry.  Smile

Re: Oil recommendation? - darrsi - 29-07-16

(29-07-16, 03:51 PM)Slaninar link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=13872.msg238225#msg238225 date=1469772474]
[quote author=Slaninar link=topic=13872.msg238222#msg238222 date=1469769266]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=13872.msg238097#msg238097 date=1469630039]
That magnet ain't going anywhere, not sure how they've been secured into the bolt, but the magnet itself won't let go of it anyway.


Because it'c a MAGNET.  Smile
Engine block is aluminium and the bolt is steel.  Smile
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Thanks for explaining, that'll be why they call it a magnetic bolt then.
Are you up to speed with sarcasm yet?  :lol
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Nope. Sorry.  Smile
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Only kidding fella.  Wink

Re: Oil recommendation? - Slaninar - 29-07-16

:thumbup
Smile