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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Streetbudgie - 08-04-13 (08-04-13, 09:14 PM)Tori link Wrote: She did what she thought was right at the time. Sorry Tori but that can never justify her actions unless you apply that to Hitler, Shipman, Jack the Ripper et al. She may not have ended lives by knife or bullet but she destroyed hundreds of thousands of lives. She cost me a lot of money and sold me everything I already owned as a taxpayer and then took the chance of social housing away from me. She was driven by her ego and nothing else, there was no belief in her for the good of the average people, she saw herself as a breed apart. Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - chris.biker - 08-04-13 Best not to speak ill of the dead. so no comment! Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - chaz - 08-04-13 so did Hitler (08-04-13, 09:14 PM)Tori link Wrote: She did what she thought was right at the time. Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - JoeRock - 09-04-13 Yes, she might have destroyed a few mining communities! However, when taken against the complete destruction of the British economy that would have have taken place if she hadn't taken such needed action, it's a relatively small price to pay! Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - dBfazer600 - 09-04-13 (09-04-13, 12:26 AM)JoeRock link Wrote: Yes, she might have destroyed a few mining communities! However, when taken against the complete destruction of the British economy that would have have taken place if she hadn't taken such needed action, it's a relatively small price to pay! And the rest: British steel Shipping Docs Just two for example but it goes allot deeper so deep that the micro communities around such industriesd did nothing for GDP or the the inhabitants who only wanted to work. But then as todays Tories think everyone is a scrounger unless your of the old school tye fraternity just as in the past. Today our society is classified to what music you listen too, if your friends are within a particular career thats how focc up this society is as everyone is scared of loosing their position in it in accordance to what they own, socialise with and the self importance of own image. Mr & Mrs Bucket (sorry Bouquet). At the end of the day everyones shit stinks. Its just some is more rancid than others. I would rather wipe chillies round my butt hole than pay respect to some one who thinks they deserve it because they think they above someone else for any rational. I lived through this bitches regine and if dividing a family where brothers, sisters, mother and father who do not speak to each other to this day was a small worthy necesnecessity the Tori ideology seen for the family is a fu**ing lie. Daz (reality is taking a piss into the wind, you will soak yourself) Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - simonm - 09-04-13 (08-04-13, 05:45 PM)richfzs link Wrote: "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King Jr..Its not often I agree with you.... So I'll agree with MLK instead ![]() Replace the hate guys. Nothing she did was for personal gain, she believed it benefited the country. However misguided you think her actions were it's never okay to wish someone dead, especially when they're doing things with the best intentions. My personal opinion is that she did a lot of harm to the country, I don't like privatising core infrastructure for the benefit of shareholders vs the good of the country. But the unions did have too much power. I'll shurrup as I'm too young to fully understand what she did and I have no interest in politics but hating isn't the way forward. Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - slimwilly - 09-04-13 Those unions needed whipping into line, they would of fucked the country, just like the car worker unions fucked it for themselves If the government give into the unions the country will be fucked http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305585/Millions-answer-general-strike-says-union-boss.html Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - driller2 - 09-04-13 I'm with Bert on this. Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - peterjca - 09-04-13 (09-04-13, 06:48 AM)slimwilly link Wrote: Those unions needed whipping into line, they would of fucked the country, just like the car worker unions fucked it for themselves I think you'll find the bankers have fucked over this country and the whole of the western economy, all to line their own pockets. This is magnitudes away from inconveniences caused by unions. Oh, and unions fight for the rights and conditions of others and not to line their own pockets. You right-wingers just keeping stepping into it, don't you? Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - fireblake - 09-04-13 I gave up reading after page 1. Socialists hated her right wingers loved her. All I know is she ain't Kim Jong un and I don't have to pretend to love her. Whatever government is running or ruining the country makes no difference. Since the 1990's I've been reading the different manifesto's to see what policies Interested me. Then at the end of their tenure I check out what has happened and what promises were kept or broken. Guess what, they've all lied and reneged on them. We need a radical change in this country. The only person who entered Parliament with an honest intention was Guy Fawkes. Mickey p.s. I stole the Guy Fawkes line from somewhere. Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - richfzs - 09-04-13 (09-04-13, 09:53 AM)peterjca link Wrote: , and unions fight for the rights and conditions of others and not to line their own pockets. So how do you square that with Arthur scargill, who is on record as admitting that the miners strike was more about an attempted power grab by him, within the labour party, than it ever was about the miners? That's almost certainly a big part of why the NUM decided to chuck him out his "flat for life". Anybody who thinks the union leaderships are any less power crazed than the MPs (of any colour) are delusional. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2 Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - peterjca - 09-04-13 (09-04-13, 11:22 AM)richfzs link Wrote: [quote author=peterjca link=topic=7157.msg68434#msg68434 date=1365497614] So how do you square that with Arthur scargill, who is on record as admitting that the miners strike was more about an attempted power grab by him, within the labour party, than it ever was about the miners? That's almost certainly a big part of why the NUM decided to chuck him out his "flat for life". Anybody who thinks the union leaderships are any less power crazed than the MPs (of any colour) are delusional. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2 [/quote] Oh yes indeed, power corrupts individuals of whatever politics. My point still stands though. Neither the miners nor any other union could have caused the outright havoc and devastation that the financial "industry" has caused. I guess you're happy for the bankers to loot our pockets and threaten to throw their toys out of the pram, but not for the miners and others to stand up for the rights of ordinary folks. Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - JoeRock - 09-04-13 (09-04-13, 11:30 AM)peterjca link Wrote: [quote author=richfzs link=topic=7157.msg68452#msg68452 date=1365502934] So how do you square that with Arthur scargill, who is on record as admitting that the miners strike was more about an attempted power grab by him, within the labour party, than it ever was about the miners? That's almost certainly a big part of why the NUM decided to chuck him out his "flat for life". Anybody who thinks the union leaderships are any less power crazed than the MPs (of any colour) are delusional. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2 [/quote] Oh yes indeed, power corrupts individuals of whatever politics. My point still stands though. Neither the miners nor any other union could have caused the outright havoc and devastation that the financial "industry" has caused. I guess you're happy for the bankers to loot our pockets and threaten to throw their toys out of the pram, but not for the miners and others to stand up for the rights of ordinary folks. [/quote] Yes, I do of course now see dozens of massive strikes all over the country, with local amenities not being carried out and the army having to be called in to be used for things such as rubbish disposal. Wait a minute, they're not happening! Yes, the recession we're in is partially due to the financial sector, but I bet youg haven't been complaining for the previous 20 years about worldwide economic growth on the back of that same sector! Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - simonm - 09-04-13 (09-04-13, 11:08 AM)fireblake link Wrote: I gave up reading after page 1. Socialists hated her right wingers loved her. All I know is she ain't Kim Jong un and I don't have to pretend to love her. Love it. Words well said. Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - DILLIGAFF - 09-04-13 David Cameron sent his condolences to the Thatcher household yesterday, his letter began........... Unfortunately due to recent events you now have too many bedrooms................. Now getting coat to avoid flamethrowers.................................... Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - maddog04 - 09-04-13 I for one will not apologise for hating her (and hate is a very strong emotion) I couldn't even bring myself to see her on TV, I had to turn over. When I left school I was told by Norman Tebbit to get on my bike to look for work, well I did. 8 hours in the saddle every day but I was fucked if I was going to move cities and leave my family, though thousands had to. The despair of writing letters for a job and getting up each morning eagerly awaiting the postie to see if you'd got an interview, only to find that no one could be arsed to even reply. I was 17 with no prospects and on the dole for yonks due to her policies and its only recently that we found out that she was briefed to let Liverpool run down. I travelled to S Wales and saw communities ravaged and left like ghost towns when they shut the mines. Me dad worked the docks and they were sending food parcels to Yorkshire to feed the miners as they were told that monies would be seized in the banks......................FOOD PARCELS FFS. THIS WAS THE UK NOT AFRICA lads going the footy were stopped by the Police and turned around just because the game was in a mining town/city. I could go on and on but my early life was ruined coz of her and I hate her for it. Don't compare her to todays MP's either, they're all a shower! its said she had more balls than a man, bollox..............if you pardon the pun. she was a dictator and her own mob saw through her and got shut. Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - maddog04 - 09-04-13 for those too young to know any better, grab a copy of "Boys from the Black stuff" Southerners thought it was a comedy but it was the reality of life in Liverpool and the North at the time Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - fireblake - 09-04-13 What I look for in a politician is whether they are a hypocrite. With old an old school Tory or really old school Labour you pretty much knew where you stood but when someone hates with every fibre of their soul something like the House of Lords you pretty much wonder what else they do to keep on the gravy train. Neil Kinnock and John Prescott are hypocrites of the first degree. The politician I most admire would be Tony Benn (you didn't see that coming) as he gave up his Lordship to become a member of parliament. Still as mad as a box of frogs but admirable all the same A quote from a newspaper In a series of newspaper articles and speeches in 1977 and 1978, he described its members as 'a bunch of unelected busybodies' and the descendants of 'brigands, muggers, bribers, and gangsters'. A person in power only has their integrity for others to judge them by, without that they truly are a Brigand, mugger,briber or a gangster Mickey Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Oldgit - 09-04-13 Before Maggie this country was going down the shitter (dead not buried, car plants striking every other day, 3 day week, streets full of rubbish, inflation at 22%, the pound worth F all, petrol rationing etc.) and that was under Labour. Many of you on here really don't remember these days, I and my fellow war babies remember all what went on in this country before Maggie got in in 1979 and this country was well fucked, the IMF had to bale us out for fucks sake (Greece now) the 3 day week was the shits you could not even sign on the Buroo cos the Labour Government had no fuckin money to help families out, just like they left us after Broon & Darling had fucked us again. So don't take your ire out on someone who had all that to contend with--short memories these Labour lefties have. Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - dBfazer600 - 09-04-13 Yep I was there and thats when we were really "All In It Together" None of this NIMBY-ism or ripping the guts out of a community that disagreed with you but everyone had the hardship. Sorry those who have had their cake and eaten it now want younger generations to pay for the mistakes and mis-selling. So why are individuals asked to work longer for less pension rights. Its to pay for keeping everyone alive at the states expense with an excellent health service. Although this will not be promoted by the powers that be because they do not want to alienate middle England with the truth but would rather divide opinion by their spin. So why has Leeds been stopped from undertaking heart surgery on kids? was it a leaking of stats to try and offset the truth behind the original report that was in favour of closing the department down? Nothing lefty about it just pure ignorance of what is happening around us because it does not affect me or you. Daz |