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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 02-12-18
I can't see any image Grayo,
Anyway, I’m still struggling to figure out what it is you BREXITEERS want.
The one thing I can come up with is control of our borders,
Yet, the latest figures show that net migration from the EU has fallen to 74,000. Non-EU net immigration is 248,000
So the claim that leaving the EU will drastically curb immigration is false. What will do is impact on our economy.
Note also that under directive 2004/38 EU migrants only have a right to residence in a member state for 3 months. After that they need to have one of three things in order to continue to stay – A job – A job lined up – or be able to demonstrate that they have the means to support themselves.
So we already have the means to control EU movement.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 03-12-18
(02-12-18, 12:32 AM)VNA link Wrote:I equally don't think that too much port is drunk in W-Spoons either. And we brew a very good Trappist beer right here in the uk.Quote:Belgian Trappist Dubble and Tripel, French Chimay Bleu, German purity laws and Schwarzbier.The Belgians are serious beer nuts. Don't forget Czech beer.
And Port, where is Tim going to find an alternative tae Port.
Czech beer - we will just then have to wait for Staropramen and Pilsner Urquell until a Czech-Out which is on the cards once we show that it can be done. Urquell is much nicer than most of the boring German wheat beers.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 03-12-18
(02-12-18, 10:04 PM)VNA link Wrote: Note also that under directive 2004/38 EU migrants only have a right to residence in a member state for 3 months. After that they need to have one of three things in order to continue to stay – A job – A job lined up – or be able to demonstrate that they have the means to support themselves.
So we already have the means to control EU movement.
What happens if they don't fulfil those conditions?.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 04-12-18
Quote: until a Czech-Out which is on the cards once we show that it can be done.Don't you believe it. I go to the Czech Republic and Slovakia every year. The EU are giving them too much money for them to want to leave
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 04-12-18
(04-12-18, 01:04 AM)mtread link Wrote:The more I find out the less I want to be in.Quote: until a Czech-Out which is on the cards once we show that it can be done.Don't you believe it. I go to the Czech Republic and Slovakia every year. The EU are giving them too much money for them to want to leave
On a side note I thought that the Staropramen served in the bars was not as tasty as it is here for some reason but it was cheap but then again via the EU I am subsidising it anyway. Here I am tasting standard / cloudy and dark, did not bother with the one that is all froth.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 04-12-18
If you get away from Prague you'd rarely pay more than the equivalent of £1for half a litre. Likewise Slovakia. They also have lots of breweries, not just the few we get here. I like the dark ones best.
As to prices, they've always been cheap, even pre EU. Part of the communist philosophy. Give the population cheap alcohol and tobacco, and they won't notice everything else that's bad.
Then of course there's Scandinavia, with a slightly different approach :eek
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 04-12-18
Quote:What happens if they don't fulfil those conditions?They do not have a right to remain.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 04-12-18
Quote:Well as London produces 22% of the UK GDP, we're thinking of getting rid of the rest of England [img alt=:lol width=20 height=20]http://foc-u.co.uk/file:///C:/Users/garet/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/img]
That might be a plan. Under Professor Minford’s (the economist the BREXITEERS love) forecast the UK will in financial terms have something of an economic boost under a NO DEAL BREXIT. However, it will be the financial sector that according to him be given a massive boost, whilst as he says the bulk of UK manufacturing will be devastated.
So, you could have a situation where London accounts for 35-40% of GDP while the north of England is laid to waste. Think of the north under a NO DEAL becoming akin to the rust belt of the USA.
On the other hand, a few years down the line you might see London, just as we are seeing today in Paris, being torn down once all those in the north, and in fact the vast majority of ordinary people, realise that they have been conned.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 04-12-18
(04-12-18, 06:49 PM)VNA link Wrote:Quote:What happens if they don't fulfil those conditions?They do not have a right to remain.
Does that mean they are sent back to the member state that they came from?.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 04-12-18
Quote:Does that mean they are sent back to the member state that they came from?.What it means is that they are no longer in the country legally. They can be removed.
So I am at a loss as to what the big advantage of BREXIT is.
In fact there are no positives to May's DEAL, and no positives to NO DEAL.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 04-12-18
(04-12-18, 07:14 PM)VNA link Wrote:Are they all removed?.Quote:Does that mean they are sent back to the member state that they came from?.What it means is that they are no longer in the country legally. They can be removed.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Grayo - 04-12-18
Don't know what happened to my image so I'll try again.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 04-12-18
European Court of Justice Attorney General has said Brexit is reversible in law, after Scottish legal challenge.
https://twitter.com/GrayInGlasgow/status/1070012341335572481
We now have a way out of this mess.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 04-12-18
More news
The Corbin May TV debate is off
Macron backs down on fuel tax
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 04-12-18
And we will see the full legal advice that the government didn't want us to know. So the truth will be out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46446694
I believe the BBC said this is the first time ever a government has been held in contempt of Parliament :eek
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 04-12-18
Yup that's a shocker.
This is an absolute disaster.We need to ditch BREXIT and get our parliament back to running the UK.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 04-12-18
Quote: Macron backs down on fuel taxWell he's only postponed it for now, but who knows. Interesting in that what he wanted to do was equalise Petrol and Diesel Excise duty, which is what the UK has done for many years
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 04-12-18
(04-12-18, 07:36 PM)Grayo link Wrote: Don't know what happened to my image so I'll try again.We've seen that nonsense thing before :z . I think mtread's already posted it
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 04-12-18
Remain is on a roll :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 04-12-18
Quote: I think mtread's already posted itThat is true, but I've got loads more
