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Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - StuartGSXR - 10-07-19
Ok, I will get my multimeter out at lunchtime.
On testing the brown/red and brown/blue wires, is that with the light switch in the dipped beam position?
And on the blue wire and blue/red is that with the light switch in the on or off position?
Thank you so much for your continued help, I would be lost without it.
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - BBROWN1664 - 10-07-19
Looking at the wiring diagram posted by Unfazed, the brown wire from the RHS switch assembly appears to be common with all of the items you have said are failing.
I would definitely be checking that all the way back to the connector block.
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - StuartGSXR - 10-07-19
Quote:Do you have a meter? If so check for 12v on the following on same 6 way 5 pin plug.Switch Ignition on and check for 12v on the Brown/red and the brown/blue by putting the probe into the back of the connector
If you get 12v on both of those then put the probe on the blue and turn the light switch on right handlebar to park that should supply 12v to the blue wire, now check the Blue/red also as it gets its 12v from the Blue/red via the ignition switch
If you get 12v on the Brown/red and Brown/Blue but not on the Blue or Blue/red the problem is in the light switch.
Right..
So with the ignition on the Brown/Red on the 5 pin switch has power, as does the Brown/Blue wire (which is on the 2 pin block??)
The Blue wire (which has small green spots on as well) does not have power with the ignition switch or the light switch in any position.
Blue/Red gets 12v in park position (but no other)So yes get 12v from Brown/Red and Brown/Blue (with the ignition on) , nothing from the Blue in any position and only with the key in park from Blue/Red.
So does that mean there is a fault in the light switch? Can someone confirm that the blue has green spots on? There is no plain blue but all the others have stripes on them. Also the Brown/Blue being on the 2 pin rather than the 5 pin?
I think we are making progress [img alt=
]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/smile.gif[/img] Thanks all
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - StuartGSXR - 10-07-19
Quote:Looking at the wiring diagram posted by Unfazed, the brown wire from the RHS switch assembly appears to be common with all of the items you have said are failing.It is definitely looking that way. Fingers crossed for progress!
I would definitely be checking that all the way back to the connector block.
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - bandit - 10-07-19
[quote='StuartGSXR link' pid='677552' dateline='1562769401']
[Quote]Do you have a meter? If so check for 12v on the following on same 6 way 5 pin plug.Switch Ignition on and check for 12v on the Brown/red and the brown/blue by putting the probe into the back of the connector
If you get 12v on both of those then put the probe on the blue and turn the light switch on right handlebar to park that should supply 12v to the blue wire, now check the Blue/red also as it gets its 12v from the Blue/red via the ignition switch
If you get 12v on the Brown/red and Brown/Blue but not on the Blue or Blue/red the problem is in the light switch.[/quote]
Right..
So with the ignition on the Brown/Red on the 5 pin switch has power, as does the Brown/Blue wire (which is on the 2 pin block??)
The Blue wire (which has small green spots on as well) does not have power with the ignition switch or the light switch in any position.
Blue/Red gets 12v in park position (but no other)So yes get 12v from Brown/Red and Brown/Blue (with the ignition on) , nothing from the Blue in any position and only with the key in park from Blue/Red.
So does that mean there is a fault in the light switch? Can someone confirm that the blue has green spots on? There is no plain blue but all the others have stripes on them. Also the Brown/Blue being on the 2 pin rather than the 5 pin?
I think we are making progress [img alt=
]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/smile.gif[/img] Thanks all Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - bandit - 10-07-19
(10-07-19, 05:22 PM)bandit link Wrote: [quote author=StuartGSXR link=topic=25441.msg300428#msg300428 date=1562769401]
Quote:Do you have a meter? If so check for 12v on the following on same 6 way 5 pin plug.Switch Ignition on and check for 12v on the Brown/red and the brown/blue by putting the probe into the back of the connector
If you get 12v on both of those then put the probe on the blue and turn the light switch on right handlebar to park that should supply 12v to the blue wire, now check the Blue/red also as it gets its 12v from the Blue/red via the ignition switch
If you get 12v on the Brown/red and Brown/Blue but not on the Blue or Blue/red the problem is in the light switch.
Right..
So with the ignition on the Brown/Red on the 5 pin switch has power, as does the Brown/Blue wire (which is on the 2 pin block??)
The Blue wire (which has small green spots on as well) does not have power with the ignition switch or the light switch in any position.
Blue/Red gets 12v in park position (but no other)So yes get 12v from Brown/Red and Brown/Blue (with the ignition on) , nothing from the Blue in any position and only with the key in park from Blue/Red.
So does that mean there is a fault in the light switch? Can someone confirm that the blue has green spots on? There is no plain blue but all the others have stripes on them. Also the Brown/Blue being on the 2 pin rather than the 5 pin?
I think we are making progress [img alt=
I would say that the switch is your problem try spraying some electrical contact cleaner in there first if that cures it strip the switch down to clean properly,as it is intermittent may just be dirty contacts.
I would say that the switch is your problem try spraying some contact cleaner in there first if that cures it strip the switch down to clean properly, as it is intermittent may just be dirty contacts.
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - unfazed - 10-07-19
So with the ignition on the Brown/Red on the 5 pin switch has power, as does the Brown/Blue wire (which is on the 2 pin block??)
Deliberate anomaly to make sure you were awake :lol and not colour blind :lol ..
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To answer the question: Yes all the single colour wire appear to have those greenish spots.
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - unfazed - 10-07-19
To prove without doubt, apply 12 volts to the back of the blue wire connector with the ignition on. If everything works now take of the light switch and clean it. A touch of "Déjà Vu" here.
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - StuartGSXR - 10-07-19
(10-07-19, 10:12 PM)unfazed link Wrote: To prove without doubt, apply 12 volts to the back of the blue wire connector with the ignition on. If everything works now take of the light switch and clean it. A touch of "Déjà Vu" here.:lol I had seen a few of your posts from following links after using google with the symptoms, quickly worked out you knew your stuff. I will give it a go tomorrow and report back
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - bandit - 10-07-19
(10-07-19, 10:12 PM)unfazed link Wrote: To prove without doubt, apply 12 volts to the back of the blue wire connector with the ignition on. If everything works now take of the light switch and clean it. A touch of "Déjà Vu" here.
Aye, pack that in! a lot on here have trouble speaking the Queens English let alone that fancy french stuff. [img alt=Cheesy]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/cheesy.gif[/img]
Sorry couldn't help myself,
[color=rgb(255, 0, 0)]Del: [/color][color=rgb(43, 43, 43)]One of my most favouritist meals is Duck à l’Orange, but I don’t know how to say that in French. [/color]
[color=rgb(255, 0, 0)]Rodney:[/color][color=rgb(43, 43, 43)] It’s canard.[/color]
[color=rgb(255, 0, 0)]Del:[/color][color=rgb(43, 43, 43)] You can say that again bruv!.[/color]
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - His Dudeness - 11-07-19
A problem on the blue wire doesn't explain the horn and brake light not working or maybe I read your first post wrong. Do they already work?
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - BBROWN1664 - 11-07-19
(10-07-19, 10:44 PM)bandit link Wrote: [color=rgb(255, 0, 0)]Del: [/color][color=rgb(43, 43, 43)]One of my most favouritist meals is Duck à l’Orange, but I don’t know how to say that in French. [/color]
[color=rgb(255, 0, 0)]Rodney:[/color][color=rgb(43, 43, 43)] It’s canard.[/color]
[color=rgb(255, 0, 0)]Del:[/color][color=rgb(43, 43, 43)] You can say that again bruv!.[/color]
This is one of my favourite Only Fools scenes ever.
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - unfazed - 11-07-19
(11-07-19, 12:09 AM)His Dudeness link Wrote: A problem on the blue wire doesn't explain the horn and brake light not working or maybe I read your first post wrong. Do they already work?Maybe there is more than one issue? :eek
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - StuartGSXR - 11-07-19
(11-07-19, 12:09 AM)His Dudeness link Wrote: A problem on the blue wire doesn't explain the horn and brake light not working or maybe I read your first post wrong. Do they already work?Ok, so I put power to the blue wire and.....
EVERYTHING WORKS AGAIN!!Horn, tail light, brake light, headlight, full beam it all works fine.
I have already ordered a used complete switch off ebay as I know if I take it to pieces I will lose at least 2 springs/small parts.
I will report back on when the switch arrives and is fitted but I am confident that the combined power of the forum has indeed solved this problem... and yes Unfazer, you did call it right on your very first post! :lol
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - Dynspud - 11-07-19
Just glad it looks like you've sorted it mate.
I also love reading the wisdom that gets written by those in the know on this forum.
It's good to know we are in safe hands
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - His Dudeness - 11-07-19
(11-07-19, 08:52 AM)unfazed link Wrote: [quote author=His Dudeness link=topic=25441.msg300449#msg300449 date=1562800154]Maybe there is more than one issue? :eek
A problem on the blue wire doesn't explain the horn and brake light not working or maybe I read your first post wrong. Do they already work?
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Den den den!!!! :lol There must be a problem that's stopping the 12V feed in the right handlebar switches. The signalling circuit is the 12V feed into the switches that's why I was suggesting it. When he put 12V on the blue wire it must have gone back through the light switch and powered the horn and the brake lights. I bet if he put 12V on the blue wire and turned the light switch off the horn would stop working :lol
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - His Dudeness - 11-07-19
(11-07-19, 11:21 AM)Dynspud link Wrote: Just glad it looks like you've sorted it mate.That's why I read the workshop forum. It helps the guy sort his problem and if he reports back when he finds the solution everyone learns from it.
I also love reading the wisdom that gets written by those in the know on this forum.
It's good to know we are in safe hands
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - StuartGSXR - 11-07-19
(11-07-19, 06:37 PM)His Dudeness link Wrote: [quote author=unfazed link=topic=25441.msg300453#msg300453 date=1562831523]Maybe there is more than one issue? :eek
[quote author=His Dudeness link=topic=25441.msg300449#msg300449 date=1562800154]
A problem on the blue wire doesn't explain the horn and brake light not working or maybe I read your first post wrong. Do they already work?
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Den den den!!!! :lol There must be a problem that's stopping the 12V feed in the right handlebar switches. The signalling circuit is the 12V feed into the switches that's why I was suggesting it. When he put 12V on the blue wire it must have gone back through the light switch and powered the horn and the brake lights. I bet if he put 12V on the blue wire and turned the light switch off the horn would stop working :lol
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Oh god, dont say that! I am hopeful that when i change the right hand switchgear that everything will go back to normal in my little comuter world!I love my Fazer, it is such a giggle, the poor GSXR1000 hardly gets ridden these days !
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - His Dudeness - 11-07-19
It most likely will sort it. When you put the new switches on you'll have to open up the old ones and show us the problem!
Re: Lighting problem / Electrics expert required! - StuartGSXR - 11-07-19
(11-07-19, 07:32 PM)His Dudeness link Wrote: It most likely will sort it. When you put the new switches on you'll have to open up the old ones and show us the problem!its the least I can do for all the help that I have got.
Also, I am not one of these people that will only log on and post when I have a problem, now I have found the forum I will be a regular contributor