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Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - VNA - 15-04-19
Quote:really glad your ok and good to see you back feller. despite your best attempts otherwise (and they really are sterling at times [img alt=Ta Ogri ya big saft fud]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/wink.gif[/img] ) you got solid mates here. foccer... [img alt=
Hey, I’ve only once ever started a political thread. But if others do, and particularly if I don’t like what’s being said, I’ll pipe up. But it don’t mean I have to fall oot wi anybody. There are some pretty bonkers views expressed here at times.
Some times I think I'm the only sane dude on this darn forum
But yeah it’s weird, worried aboot getting an endoscopy? Ask the foccers!
Did ask at work, but only one of my lot have had it. They sedated him but he still freaked out. He had it under a GA. But then he’s super squeamish about stuff.
Oh ah wis gonna watch the screen Anquetil. I figured I could turn my eyes away from it if I wanted. But they bunged the gum guard thing in, she picked up the scope, turned the screen away and stuck the scope in ma gob. To be honest it would have probably just made me wretch even more.
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - mtread - 15-04-19
Good to see you back VNA. Let's just do medical comparisons so we can REMAIN healthy
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - ogri48 - 16-04-19
lol a lot of us are definitely in a certain club for blokes of a certain age. getting old sucks dunnit fellers...
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - VNA - 17-04-19
Quote:lol a lot of us are definitely in a certain club for blokes of a certain age. getting old sucks dunnit fellers...The geriatric adventures continue bud,
So, up at 05.30 today and off on the first train to Glasgow. Walked across the city centre to the old Royal Infirmary, and after what seemed like another mile of walking though the hospital found the Urology department with plenty of time to spare. Weirdly my appointment time was 08.30 but the notice on the door stated they didn’t open till 08.45 Eh?
So just after 08.30 I chapped the locked door, and yeah, somebody came and let me in.
Booked in, manage to produce a pee sample and saw the consultant for a chat.
Got changed and went for pre-prep. I tried my best to avoid the anti-inflammatory suppository, I reminded them that I’m mildly asthmatic, but nope I was told one way or another it’s going in. So, I bent over the table, lifted my gown and before I could say – right I’m ready – the nice female nurse had popped it in. A quick x-ray, two tramadol and an anti-biotic and I was good to go.
So, into theatre and up onto the lipotripsy machine. And basically, a nice young motorcyclist called Gary kicked me in my left kidney 3000 times in order to shatter one of my kidney stones.
Annoyingly Gary explained that the current generation of lipotripsy machine with it’s built in x-ray head can see pretty much most of what the big rig next door can. My stones are mostly really small and they have refused me lipotripsy for a number of years now. They have refused me because they told me the machine will not be able to see my stones. There’s also been a long term funding issue in Scotland for lipotripsy. God knows why, when it’s relatively low risk and effective. Kidney stones can cause a great deal of distress, cost the NHS a small fortune in emergency admissions to administer morphine and/or to clear blood clots. I had asked my consultant several times to refer me even just to let the machine operator to stick me on and have a look – it would take about 2 or 3 minutes to determine if they could be seen. And not only could Gary’s machine see my small stones but he was able to show me three tiny bits of the shattered stone on the screen which he said should now be small enough to slip out naturally into my bladder with the rest of the stone having been pulverised into grit.
Anyway 40 minutes and 3000 pings and I was done. Did have to stop for a minute’s rest now and again. Quite painful, and I even left a nice wee smear of blood on lipotripsy ping head. Drank a pint of water, did a very bloody pee and I was good to go. A good friend picked me up and got me back down the road.
Gary and the staff were excellent, first class, had a few good laughs with the staff as well as the next victim for treatment.
So gotta take it easy tomorrow, drink loads of water and take my tablets for a week. They told me one days rest and I can then do as I please.
So if I’m lucky we’ve just blasted the stone that my kidney keeps trying to reject. If not, there are two remaining stones in my left kidney, so theoretically another two sessions and I should be pain free for a good while.
There’s five stones in my right kidney but other than the odd twinge, or some dull pain for a few hours once in a blue moon, well so far (fingers crossed) my right kidney hasn’t had a proper go at rejecting them.
So here’s hoping.
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - Anquetil - 18-04-19
Well, VNA, you are really having a rough time, healthwise, and you have my sincere sympathies. I had a kidney stone many years ago and the sudden pain dropped me to the floor. Fortunately for me it passed through after a period of time. To have multiple stones does not bear thinking about ! I must admit that I had never heard of a lithotripsy machine. Hope that your health improves and that you can enjoy getting out on the bike now that the good weather has arrived.
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - VNA - 18-04-19
Cheers Anquetil,
Ach, just some long term digestive and kidney stone issues. Hopefully neither will become too serious – touch wood. Oh yeah and a bad start to the year with shingles and ma bleedin knee playing up. Ah the joys of getting old. Sounds terrible but really health wise I’m OK.
I remember well the first time I became aware of kidney stone issues. Probably coming on 20 years ago. I had a bit of what I thought was mild back pain for a few days. The pain got worse, then on one visit to the toilet I passed dark red urine and I then threw up. A few hours later I was calling the NHS line – they told me to take a couple of paracetamols and lie down! I couldn’t sit still never mind lie down. In fact, I had to phone for me mammy and get her to call the NHS line again as I could not sit still enough to use the phone. They dispatched the local GP who gave me a shot of morphine and told me to go to the hospital. My mammy then drove me to A&E where I was given more morphine and I spent the night there and most of the following day. And oh, I love morphine. The old kidney x-rays were fun. They put a bar across to block your ureters, then they produced a half pint sized syringe full of iodine and pumped it into you. X-ray technology has improve a shit load in the last couple of decades.
I think lots of people live their whole life with multiple small stones without ever realising they have them. I’ve just got one right now that wants out.
Lithotripsy machine just fires targeted sound pulses to smash the stone. The remains of the stone will hopefully now just pass out in my pee.
The machine I was on yesterday was clearly a lot more sophisticated than the one I was on about 15 years ago. The big difference seems to be the new one uses some new-fangled live x-ray head to target the stone. The old machine used ultrasound to find the stone. I’m wondering if my consultant (not the consultant that I saw yesterday) doesn’t quite fully appreciate what the latest machines can see. He was keen to put me under and go in with the laser camera, which though a routine procedure, is clearly higher risk and surely much much more expensive.
A quick search for videos and photos of Lithotripsy and I note some health services sedate people for lithotripsy. It is quite painful.
Gary told me some folks take 100 shocks, get up and walk out the door. Some can’t take full power shocks. I took 300 or 400 at full power and Gary decided to back off 10% as I was struggling a bit. And he gets little old ladies who lie down, hardly say a word and take the whole 3000 shocks in one run with the vast majority of them at full power.
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - VNA - 18-04-19
This looks very similar to the machine I was on yesterday.
![[Image: urolith.jpg]](https://www.mashruba.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/urolith.jpg)
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - unfazed - 18-04-19
Glad to hear you are ok (ish) Are you sure you weren't beamed up to an alien ship that looks like one of the alien beds you see in the movies.
As long as anything that's wrong does not prevent you riding the bike it can' be too bad. :thumbup
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - VNA - 18-04-19
Cheers unfazed.
You rest your kidney against the orange thing, which fires the sound energy pulses in.The stuff on the C arm is the x-ray imaging stuff, which continually updates as the proceedure progresses.
Taking it easy today, drinking loads of water, but yeah I'll be fine for the bike from tomorrow onwards.
Ta.
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - VNA - 05-11-19
Quote:hope they get it sorted feller, kidney problems suck and then some. its been almost forty years since my ops, which were befiore keyhole surgery was an option. got a 14 inch scar on one side, and an 8 inch one on the other, but they work ok. ops nearly killed me mind lol. after each op they leave a stent in from your kidney to your bowel, then go in through your knob six weeks later to pull it out.
I remember going in for the stent removal, having me shower, going back to the hospital bed and waiting for them to take me to theatre. I was cold and afraid, looked at me knob and thought " they'll be lucky if they can find the fucker, let alone pull anything out of it...." :lol
Which is why I’ve been quiet for the last week. The lipotripsy turned out to be a bit of a waste of time. Two full sessions which went well, but on review they decided that my little stones must be made of reinforced concrete. The little stone they attacked was still showing on the x-ray weeks after the second session.
Fortunately, keyhole is available today Ogri. I say fortunately, well keyhole sounds great, until you figure out that your wee winkie is the keyhole. So last Monday I had an airline (to inflate my kidney), a camera, laser and a grab stuffed up ma wee winkie.
Consultant told me he expected it to be a straight in and back out job, no stent, no catheter, no problems. Well afterwards he described my kidney as unfriendly, so he had to stick a stent in to gain access, which got left there for all the shit to drop back out.
The 12-24 hrs after the op were fun filled. Drank loads of water and couldn’t piss. I knew what might come next, but I tell you my knob was absolutely red raw. God only knows what would have happened if they tried to stick a catheter in me - I hate o think. So, I pleaded for morphine as I figured I was in too much pain to pee. So they gave me a couple of shots of liquid oral morphine and some other stuff. 20 minutes or so later I managed a piss. Despite the pain killers I was holding onto the wall in the toilet with both hands, knees wobbling and tears of pain running down my cheeks trying not to scream and wake everybody up in what was now the small hours.
Just gotta wait now till I get the stent back out. Really looking forward to it – not.
How are you lot?
I take you are back at work full time BBROWN?
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - unfazed - 05-11-19
Way to much information there VNA, even reading was making me cringe. :\
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - VNA - 05-11-19
Sorry Unfazed, that's me leaving quite a bit o the detail out. :eek
Anyway hopefully heading in the right direction now.
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - unfazed - 05-11-19
Went through enough of hospitals in 2002 after being hit by a truck in Cork City, 3 months in hospital 4 skin grafts and 9 visits to the operating theatre was taken in my stride and I cringed at the thought of what you went through.
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - VNA - 05-11-19
Quote:Went through enough of hospitals in 2002 after being hit by a truck in Cork City, 3 months in hospital 4 skin grafts and 9 visits to the operating theatre was taken in my stride and I cringed at the thought of what you went through.It’s wasn’t pleasant. I am a big wane when it comes to these things though. :o
I’ve always wondered if I ever had a nasty off, if I’d get back on again, and I’m always impressed by those that do. I cannot imagine being stuck in hospital for 3 months. Anyway, will try and stay on it – don’t really wanna know the answer. :eek
Apparently, my tubes are narrow, hence the stent, and I wonder if that’s also why ma wee winkie was well sare afterwards. :'(
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - unfazed - 05-11-19
(05-11-19, 10:49 PM)VNA link Wrote:The Biking bug usually wins unless it is physically impossible :wootQuote:I’ve always wondered if I ever had a nasty off, if I’d get back on again, and I’m always impressed by those that do. I cannot imagine being stuck in hospital for 3 months. Anyway, will try and stay on it – don’t really wanna know the answer. :eek
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - agricola - 06-11-19
Glad youre on the mend. Youve got to watch out for some of these pain killers though. When I fractured my spine, I was on morphine and codine, and boy did it make shitting fun. Two weeks without a crap, despite straining for hours a day to pass it. When the first batch came out, it was like passing a tree stump. I swear Id rather have the pain than go through that again
Re: Old man stuff – endoscopy - VNA - 06-11-19
Cheers Agricola.
Fractured your spine! :eek FFS. Hope it’s all good now.
Yup been there before with the pain killers. It’s as foccing painful as anything when it gets out of hand.
I left hospital with a box of Laxido and I knew I still had some microlax at home from a pervious blockage. The next day I manged a very quick trip to the supermarket, bought what I needed for a big pot of soup and grabbed loads of fruit. I just ate fruit and soup for 4 days washed down with laxido – problem solved.
Like you say, when I got home for the first three days I was desperate to take some painkillers, took about three tramadol the first day, but that was it. They just block you especially after all the good stuff in hospital.