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Re: Starting problem - keno - 20-01-17
(20-01-17, 10:43 AM)unfazed link Wrote: When you say you cleaned the contacts, did you open up the solenoid and clean it internally. Common for the internal contacts to have green corrosion which intermittently stops the solenoid doing its job. Next time it happens short the big connections in the solenoid. If that turns the starter, change the solenoid. I don't know of anyone who had to strip a starter on the 600 to replace brushes. Heard of a few who had to because the starter was seized
I took out the electric connector block cleaned all contacts and soaked it in gt85, put back in done the same with the starter motor connection tapped the starter motor with the back of a screw driver and hit button,starts every time now.
Re: Starting problem - Jules-C - 20-01-17
It was the tap on the starter motor that fixed it. Need to get those brushes cleaned or changed because it's going to happen again before too long
Re: Starting problem - keno - 20-01-17
(20-01-17, 02:12 PM)Jules-C link Wrote: It was the tap on the starter motor that fixed it. Need to get those brushes cleaned or changed because it's going to happen again before too long
Yep got some on order for £5.99
Re: Starting problem - DangerNoodle - 26-01-17
Just a quick update, after reading through this thread due to similar problems, I have taken my starter apart and intend to replace the brushes (they do look quite worn and have visible curves in the surface). Does anyone know where I can get a brush carrier assembly for less than £60? I've looked at just the brushes but I don't think I'm able (lack of know how / equipment) to replace them on their own.
Re: Starting problem - Jules-C - 27-01-17
The curve on the surface isn't a problem it is in fact a good feature as it spreads the current over a greater area stop local overheating.
The brushes should slide smoothly and freely in their holders. New brushes are 10mm long and the manual gives the minimum length as 4mm. The commutator the brushes are pressed on to should be copper looking but doesn't have to be super shiny but shouldn't have any black areas on in (except for the thin black lines between the bits of copper).
Often dismantling and reassembling the starter motor will free the brushes up and the problem can disappear
Re: Starting problem - DangerNoodle - 28-01-17
Ahh i see, this is what happens when you don't read up properly (my bad). The starter is completely clean now though so I might put it back in and just see if it works.
Re: Starting problem - keno - 28-01-17
(28-01-17, 07:43 AM)DangerNoodle link Wrote: Ahh i see, this is what happens when you don't read up properly (my bad). The starter is completely clean now though so I might put it back in and just see if it works.
Try these only takes 30 mins to strip and change.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221809984064?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT