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Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - Frosties - 18-12-15
(18-12-15, 12:28 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=Frosties link=topic=18941.msg219236#msg219236 date=1450436985]Mine is more like this Picture bellow- so just a small zip at the top and goes over your head - fits nice and tight and goes over the end of my leather sleeves and around my wrists so that it is still easy to get my gloves on. Also fits nice around my neck area. And is longer than my leather jacket and almost forms a seal below.
Maddog, Sharpy - are we saying one of these is the best option then?
http://www.halfords.com/cycling/cycling-clothing/jackets-gilets/ridge-water-resistant-cycling-jacket
BUT mine is not water proof, but I dont do rain anyway, but if you get the right size and bearing in mind it is stretchy it could go over your waterproofs
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Not surprised it's feckin tight......it's made for a bird - just sayin like. Thanks for the idea but i'm not going to A&E as a cross dresser. :lol
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - Frosties - 18-12-15
Loving this scheme though. Can you make me one aswell Darrsi
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - esetest - 18-12-15
It stops the poor sods in the sweat shops starving .
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - lew600fazer - 18-12-15
On dark days be it morning or evening Hi Vis has to be worth it at least gives you a fitting chance be it on the roads or in court
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - celticdog - 19-12-15
Yellow sunshine . . . sounds like an acid trip , , , I'm going to have to post my own pic! You have been warned!" :b :rollin :rollin :rollin
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - unfazed - 19-12-15
Anyone notice how hi vis looks with sunglasses especially poloraid one.
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - darrsi - 19-12-15
(19-12-15, 12:41 AM)unfazed link Wrote: Anyone notice how hi vis looks with sunglasses especially poloraid one.
Kind of defeating the object if truth be told?
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - fireblake - 19-12-15
For the last couple of years I've had yellow lens protectors on my bike and I think these are amazing, whilst filtering I notice more cars move aside for me. I wear a Hi Viz jacket that I nicked from work, it covers my arms too. I never used to wear any Hi Viz until a work mate mentioned a story of some guy coming off his bike and laying in the road and was hit by a car that couldn't see him, his bike was some yards away. Think about it, dressed in Black in the dark and lying on a road. He might still have been hit by a car wearing Hi Viz but it might have given the driver a few vital yards to brake.
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - Slaninar - 19-12-15
(18-12-15, 01:53 PM)mr self destruct link Wrote: [quote author=Slaninar link=topic=18941.msg219206#msg219206 date=1450422849][size=1em][size=1em]
Open road - yes. Definitely.
City riding - rarely.
And when it comes to SMIDSY, not sure it helps very much. Swerving before intersections is a lot more effective.
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I agree with you there, if I see a car poking out of a side street I'll move side to side within the lane as the human eye notices movement far more than colour.
As for wearing hi-vis, I never ride without it, for two main reasons. Firstly, the insurance issue as already stated earlier in the thread. Secondly, for my wife's peace of mind.
I personally don't give a fuck about what I look like, so don't care if I'm looked down on by other bikers for wearing it. If I have to wear a pink tutu and bunny ears to stop my wife shitting herself every time I get on the bike, that's what I'll wear. :lol
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[size=1em]My motorcycle has some hi-vis tape put - white on the front, red on the back. I often wear hi-vis in the open road. My "winter" bicycle is taped in hi-vis tape. So nothing against hi-vis.[/size]
However, as far as effectiveness goes, out of town it's a lot more effective. In the city... it seems to help a lot less. IMO, the list is like this:
1. Lights - adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible.
![[Image: Motorcycle-10W-LED-Lights-04.jpg]](http://www.ijdmtoy.com/BLOG/Showcase/Honda-LED-Lights-HID-Bulbs/galleries/2012_Vol_06/Motorcycle-10W-LED-Lights-04.jpg)
2. Good lane positioning according to situation (to increase visibility) and weaving at intersections (what is a man when he stops drinking and driving?!
).3. Speed and braking - always assume you're still invisible. Always!
4. Hi - vis.
5. Crash pads and helmet, if all else fails.
I wrote a blog article on hi-vis decals limitations for bicycles. People often expect a bit too much of it.
[size=1em]http://www.bike.bikegremlin.com/2015/09/02/bicycle-lights/[/size]
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - noggythenog - 19-12-15
My thoughts are that if you are commuting every day in heavy traffic and in the winter then it is worthwhile..........but the average summer weekend rider doesnt need it.........and right or wrong we are all into aesthetics arent we & high viz looks shit...........if we didnt care then we'd have all of our bikes covered in high viz instead of the lovely paint jobs they have.
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - fazersharp - 19-12-15
(19-12-15, 11:40 AM)noggythenog link Wrote: if we didnt care then we'd have all of our bikes covered in high viz instead of the lovely paint jobs they have.I would quite like a white fzs 600
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - noggythenog - 19-12-15
Do it fazersharp....there was a guy on here from norway had a white one it looked nice......imagine how he must have blended in.......would have had to wear black clothes so folk could see him :lol
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - fazersharp - 19-12-15
I think a white bike will just have to wait and be my next bike
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - darrsi - 19-12-15
(19-12-15, 10:55 AM)Slaninar link Wrote: [quote author=mr self destruct link=topic=18941.msg219246#msg219246 date=1450443215][quote author=Slaninar link=topic=18941.msg219206#msg219206 date=1450422849][size=1em][size=1em]
Open road - yes. Definitely.
City riding - rarely.
And when it comes to SMIDSY, not sure it helps very much. Swerving before intersections is a lot more effective.
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I agree with you there, if I see a car poking out of a side street I'll move side to side within the lane as the human eye notices movement far more than colour.
As for wearing hi-vis, I never ride without it, for two main reasons. Firstly, the insurance issue as already stated earlier in the thread. Secondly, for my wife's peace of mind.
I personally don't give a fuck about what I look like, so don't care if I'm looked down on by other bikers for wearing it. If I have to wear a pink tutu and bunny ears to stop my wife shitting herself every time I get on the bike, that's what I'll wear. :lol
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[size=1em]My motorcycle has some hi-vis tape put - white on the front, red on the back. I often wear hi-vis in the open road. My "winter" bicycle is taped in hi-vis tape. So nothing against hi-vis.[/size]
However, as far as effectiveness goes, out of town it's a lot more effective. In the city... it seems to help a lot less. IMO, the list is like this:
1. Lights - adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible.
2. Good lane positioning according to situation (to increase visibility) and weaving at intersections (what is a man when he stops drinking and driving?!
).3. Speed and braking - always assume you're still invisible. Always!
4. Hi - vis.
5. Crash pads and helmet, if all else fails.
I wrote a blog article on hi-vis decals limitations for bicycles. People often expect a bit too much of it.
[size=1em]http://www.bike.bikegremlin.com/2015/09/02/bicycle-lights/[/size]
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"...adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible..."
Just in case you stumble upon any grizzly bears whilst out riding. :lol
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - darrsi - 19-12-15
(19-12-15, 12:47 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: I think a white bike will just have to wait and be my next bike
My last bike was white, and soooo much easier to keep clean than my black Fazer.
Although it's obviously faster in black, i don't think i would ever buy a bike in that colour again.
One quick shower of rain and it looks dirty all over again, even after just cleaning it. :groan
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - Slaninar - 19-12-15
(19-12-15, 01:23 PM)darrsi link Wrote: "...adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible..."
Just in case you stumble upon any grizzly bears whilst out riding. :lol
It seems to work better than just centre headlights. For cars pulling in at intersections at least.
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - darrsi - 19-12-15
(19-12-15, 01:44 PM)Slaninar link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=18941.msg219354#msg219354 date=1450527830]
"...adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible..."
Just in case you stumble upon any grizzly bears whilst out riding. :lol
It seems to work better than just centre headlights. For cars pulling in at intersections at least.
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A biker passes me on the way to work every morning and he has sidelights, and admittedly you can spot him a mile away.
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - fazersharp - 19-12-15
Quote:My last bike was white, and soooo much easier to keep clean than my black Fazer.White is just black without any black in it
Although it's obviously faster in black,
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - Frosties - 19-12-15
(19-12-15, 10:40 AM)fireblake link Wrote: For the last couple of years I've had yellow lens protectors on my bike and I think these are amazing, whilst filtering I notice more cars move aside for me. I wear a Hi Viz jacket that I nicked from work, it covers my arms too. I never used to wear any Hi Viz until a work mate mentioned a story of some guy coming off his bike and laying in the road and was hit by a car that couldn't see him, his bike was some yards away. Think about it, dressed in Black in the dark and lying on a road. He might still have been hit by a car wearing Hi Viz but it might have given the driver a few vital yards to brake.
That's just reminded me of a bloke a few months back with these fitted - saw the bugger coming a mile off filtering down the M4. Damm good shout - i'm off hunting :thumbup HANG ON - IS YELLOW LEGAL?
(19-12-15, 01:44 PM)Slaninar link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=18941.msg219354#msg219354 date=1450527830]
"...adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible..."
Just in case you stumble upon any grizzly bears whilst out riding. :lol
It seems to work better than just centre headlights. For cars pulling in at intersections at least.
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With you on this also Slaninar - all the wiring is done and the Cree LED spots bought, just got to mount them.
Re: Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps? - slappy - 19-12-15
Fitted mine a few months back,, noticed more cars seem to move out of my way now