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Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Punkstig - 27-11-15
You lot saying the pedestrians aren't at fault in any of these clips do realise there's highway code rules for pedestrians too right!?
(which all the pedestrians are not adhering to)
The pedestrians are at fault in every clip according to the highway code, go to court after an accident and they'd be proper fucked!
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - YamFazFan - 27-11-15
I think it's what they term 'Jaywalking' in America isn't it..wandering out into moving traffic where you shouldn't do.
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Punkstig - 27-11-15
Main difference is it's enforced over there, same as Germany and many other countries!
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 27-11-15
Look it up, I think you'll find that pedestrians have 'a right of way'.
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Val - 27-11-15
(27-11-15, 08:56 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: I think it's what they term 'Jaywalking' in America isn't it..wandering out into moving traffic where you shouldn't do.
There is no jaywalking in the UK, here we just call it crossing the road - traffic or not is perfectly legal to do so :lol
(27-11-15, 03:58 PM)maddog04 link Wrote: The Highway code is clear that all road rules and signals are advisory
what a load of sh!te. where did you come up with that one?
try telling that to a judge when you run a "STOP" sign..............certain rules and signals are a "MUST" do eg the hexagonal red STOP sign and a Blue circle with 30 in it (mandatory minimum speed)
My point was all the rules are advisory in the sense that if somebody cross on a red light that does not give you an wild card to run him over. You always must drive with due care means the magic words "he was running red light your honour, which is a MUST cross on a green rule, hence I have run him over..." are not good enough for the judge to agree with you.
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Val - 27-11-15
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 28-11-15
Chances are, if you unwittingly decide, by choice, to take a chance and walk in front of me, you'd better start shifting, 'cos i ain't stopping!
No need for me to explain any further.....try me!
They always move......rather sharpishly, especially when you rev, drop a gear, and take aim. :evil
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Slaninar - 28-11-15
(28-11-15, 03:30 AM)darrsi link Wrote: They always move......rather sharpishly, especially when you rev, drop a gear, and take aim. :evil
![[Image: mad-max-2-max-dog.jpg]](http://www.yellmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/mad-max-2-max-dog.jpg)
:rollin
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 28-11-15
(27-11-15, 04:16 PM)Slaninar link Wrote: Front and rear lights are good enough. Reflectors are required by law but if you have working lights - you don't really need them. Most road bikes as well as fixies don't have reflectors.
However, two separate brake systems, one on each wheel are required both by law and common sense. One brake can fail any time.
For single speed (and fixed gear) bicycles, rear wheel can be stopped with pedals - but many people ride without the front as well. I've found that a good front brake is crucial for sudden situations, like pedestrians jumping on the bicycle lane - often happens where I ride.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kumLyiWkIoE
Air horn.....a solver of problems, and maketh of many dances. :lol
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 28-11-15
(28-11-15, 08:39 AM)Slaninar link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=18810.msg217342#msg217342 date=1448677851]
They always move......rather sharpishly, especially when you rev, drop a gear, and take aim. :evil
:rollin
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Hi vis jacket, 2 headlights, reflective Arai stickers on the lid and bike, reflective tape on the top box, beeping indicators, LED strip lights on each side of the fairing connected and in sync with my normal indicators, LED brake light which also becomes another added rear set of added indicators as well as the originals, and a noisy but not too loud Quill end can.
I fucking dare any bastard i just ran down then wheel spun over to say they never saw or heard me!
I can't be any more noticeable unless i stick cow bells on the wheels and wear a mini skirt!
Okay......you can erase that thought now! :lol
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Slaninar - 28-11-15
Still not enough for bikes. This video explains the visibility problem from the angle of human instincts and limits:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqQBubilSXU
Add poor driver training (and none training required to be a pedestrian) and there you have it.
I had a SMIDSY once, driving a car. Hit the brakes at the very last second. And consider myself to be a very cautious driver, on the lookout for (motor)cyclists. Now I'm ten years older with worse reflexes. Could happen any time to anyone.
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 28-11-15
There's a tube station not far from where i live that's situated on top of quite a steep bridge that goes over the track and my worst scenario is when it's pissing down with rain so i have a visor full of water droplets, oncoming cars coming over the bridge with their lovely bright headlights illuminating every single one of those droplets, then some cnut deciding to cross the road dressed in dark clothing in the thought that i must be able to see them, just 'cos they fancy a kebab but can't be arsed to use the proper crossing.
I might feel a bump, then wash the bike down later......but no, i simply cannot see them, through no fault of my own.
Why anyone would want to cross a road on the wrong side of a blind bridge just beggars belief, i wouldn't even consider it in broad daylight?
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Grahamm - 30-11-15
(27-11-15, 09:22 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Look it up, I think you'll find that pedestrians have 'a right of way'.
"Right of way" simply means that someone is allowed to "Pass and re-pass" across a piece of land, ie they can do it repeatedly and do not need to ask for permission at any time.
The correct term is "priority", ie who gets to go first. At a roundabout, traffic from the right has priority, ie you're required to let it go first. If a pedestrian has set foot on a zebra crossing, they have priority and traffic must stop for them.
However, although you're not allowed to deliberately run them down, some idiot just stepping out into the road does *not* have priority and, if they get hit, may well be deemed to be at fault.
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 30-11-15
(30-11-15, 02:29 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=18810.msg217328#msg217328 date=1448655765]
Look it up, I think you'll find that pedestrians have 'a right of way'.
"Right of way" simply means that someone is allowed to "Pass and re-pass" across a piece of land, ie they can do it repeatedly and do not need to ask for permission at any time.
The correct term is "priority", ie who gets to go first. At a roundabout, traffic from the right has priority, ie you're required to let it go first. If a pedestrian has set foot on a zebra crossing, they have priority and traffic must stop for them.
However, although you're not allowed to deliberately run them down, some idiot just stepping out into the road does *not* have priority and, if they get hit, may well be deemed to be at fault.
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So what you're actually suggesting is by writing *not* and also "may well", you don't really know the exact answer either, just like the rest of us?
Spoken like a true lawyer. :lol
All i know is if you decide to rudely and carelessly step out in front of me then you get to hear the tone of my air horn, which in turn tends to give people a quick lesson in how to River Dance.
When i was a kid the Green Cross Code was drummed into you at school, on tv, posters, in fact it was everywhere. You don't really see that sort of thing these days, it was a proper campaign that was designed to help pedestrians and drivers alike.
Now if you go past a school for instance the chances are a bunch of kids will cross in front of you as slowly as possible with zero eye contact, but if you're really lucky one of them might actually acknowledge you with a middle finger to say "fuck you very much".
How times have changed. :\
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Robbie8666 - 30-11-15
(30-11-15, 06:44 AM)darrsi link Wrote: When i was a kid the Green Cross Code was drummed into you at school, on tv, posters, in fact it was everywhere. You don't really see that sort of thing these days, it was a proper campaign that was designed to help pedestrians and drivers alike.
the reason the Green Cross Code isn't taught any more is because the little darlings are driven to school in 4 x 4's!!
I have tried to teach my kids how to cross properly looking both ways but still they will just blindly cross!
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Frosties - 30-11-15
(27-11-15, 09:09 AM)Slaninar link Wrote: I often brake, slow down, when I see the pedestrian is not sure whether to go, or stop, or run. If they don't see me, then I go behind men and in front of women - because, from my experience, if they see me at the very last second, women often tend to suddenly stop or jump backwards, while men tend to start running-jumping forward, seldom stopping.
This bit about male and female reactions is just so, so true. A good heads up to others - except Darrsi who couldn't give a fook anyhow, and rightly so in a lot of cases :lol
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Grahamm - 30-11-15
(30-11-15, 06:44 AM)darrsi link Wrote: So what you're actually suggesting is by writing *not* and also "may well", you don't really know the exact answer either, just like the rest of us?
Spoken like a true lawyer. :lol
No, if i was speaking like a true lawyer I'd have charged you £150 for that answer.
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 30-11-15
(30-11-15, 01:49 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=18810.msg217558#msg217558 date=1448862248]
So what you're actually suggesting is by writing *not* and also "may well", you don't really know the exact answer either, just like the rest of us?
Spoken like a true lawyer. :lol
No, if i was speaking like a true lawyer I'd have charged you £150 for that answer.
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This is very true. :lol
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - darrsi - 30-11-15
(30-11-15, 10:10 AM)Frosties link Wrote: [quote author=Slaninar link=topic=18810.msg217264#msg217264 date=1448611799]
I often brake, slow down, when I see the pedestrian is not sure whether to go, or stop, or run. If they don't see me, then I go behind men and in front of women - because, from my experience, if they see me at the very last second, women often tend to suddenly stop or jump backwards, while men tend to start running-jumping forward, seldom stopping.
This bit about male and female reactions is just so, so true. A good heads up to others - except Darrsi who couldn't give a fook anyhow, and rightly so in a lot of cases :lol
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Rather than having to suddenly remember who steps which way, 'cos you're bound to forget, just aim straight at them with the horn blowing.
Then you can't get it wrong,
Re: Cab gets my vote by default - Frosties - 30-11-15
(30-11-15, 02:37 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Frosties link=topic=18810.msg217568#msg217568 date=1448874614]
[quote author=Slaninar link=topic=18810.msg217264#msg217264 date=1448611799]
I often brake, slow down, when I see the pedestrian is not sure whether to go, or stop, or run. If they don't see me, then I go behind men and in front of women - because, from my experience, if they see me at the very last second, women often tend to suddenly stop or jump backwards, while men tend to start running-jumping forward, seldom stopping.
This bit about male and female reactions is just so, so true. A good heads up to others - except Darrsi who couldn't give a fook anyhow, and rightly so in a lot of cases :lol
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Rather than having to suddenly remember who steps which way, 'cos you're bound to forget, just aim straight at them with the horn blowing.
Then you can't get it wrong,
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Good shout :lol :lol . Been thinking though......what happens if it's a faggott or a lesbo eh - what then ? :eek