(09-02-15, 03:55 PM)lew600fazer link Wrote: Why is it that those that follow relegion seem to be the folk that are least happy?
We have the radical muslims who want to chop everyones head off at the drop of a hat.
The Anglican church are beating themselves up because we now have female bishops
The Jews in the UK do not feel safe here now so a few are starting to leave. The rise in anti semitism has nothing to do with the hard hitting tactics adopted in Gaza.
The Catholic church is in denial about mistreating orphan children in some of the church run care homes.

Even our own political masters are trying to sweep the dirt under the carpet concerning child abuse.

(06-02-15, 05:14 PM)fazed link Wrote: Isis are the guys that throw gays off tall buildings for being gay but say its fine to marry a NINE YEAR OLD girl as well as enslaving Yazidi and Christian minority women after exterminating the men and boys (all of them were unarmed - naturally) it's also ok burning helpless prisoners alive in addition to beheading a volunteer aid worker just because he was a white christian.  Religious Nazis can be negotiated with........  They need stopping - NOW.  Hope the Jordanians take no prisoners.

(10-02-15, 03:51 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: I got my house black listed by the Jehovah witness, instead of shutting the door I stood talking and it was me that would not let THEM go, I talked about aliens being the god and when they smirked at that I said you think that strange but that is just how you sound to me. A few years past by and I was out the front and they came along and I asked why dont you knock any more and I was told they put me on a "no call list" after that.

(09-02-15, 04:16 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=lew600fazer link=topic=15889.msg182853#msg182853 date=1423493749]
Why is it that those that follow relegion seem to be the folk that are least happy?
We have the radical muslims who want to chop everyones head off at the drop of a hat.
The Anglican church are beating themselves up because we now have female bishops
The Jews in the UK do not feel safe here now so a few are starting to leave. The rise in anti semitism has nothing to do with the hard hitting tactics adopted in Gaza.
The Catholic church is in denial about mistreating orphan children in some of the church run care homes.

Even our own political masters are trying to sweep the dirt under the carpet concerning child abuse.

(10-02-15, 04:32 PM)Rexr link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=15889.msg182856#msg182856 date=1423494982]
[quote author=lew600fazer link=topic=15889.msg182853#msg182853 date=1423493749]
Why is it that those that follow relegion seem to be the folk that are least happy?
We have the radical muslims who want to chop everyones head off at the drop of a hat.
The Anglican church are beating themselves up because we now have female bishops
The Jews in the UK do not feel safe here now so a few are starting to leave. The rise in anti semitism has nothing to do with the hard hitting tactics adopted in Gaza.
The Catholic church is in denial about mistreating orphan children in some of the church run care homes.

Even our own political masters are trying to sweep the dirt under the carpet concerning child abuse.

(10-02-15, 06:21 PM)rustyrider link Wrote: Last year at work we had a project that involved pairing up office workers with engineers so we could give them an insight into what life was like in the real world.  One day I got paired up with a guy who was well known as a God botherer of some description and I was warned that he might try to convert me.  The whole day passed with no mention at all until he turned round to me, out of the blue, and asked, "Are you religious?".  I told him I wasn't, had no interest in becoming religious and couldn't understand why anyone allowed themselves to be brainwashed into believing everything they are told without being able to prove it.  He then started to try to explain it so I stopped him and said, "Let's just suppose that I have an invisible monkey that sits on my shoulder, watches everything I do and whispers in my ear telling me what decisions I should make and how I should live my life.  He's completely invisible, only I can see or hear him and nobody else can.  You'd probably think I was a nutter right?  Now you tell me what the difference is between my invisible monkey and your God?"  He never said a word and religion wasn't mentioned to anyone for the whole month of the project.

(10-02-15, 06:21 PM)rustyrider link Wrote: Last year at work we had a project that involved pairing up office workers with engineers so we could give them an insight into what life was like in the real world.  One day I got paired up with a guy who was well known as a God botherer of some description and I was warned that he might try to convert me.  The whole day passed with no mention at all until he turned round to me, out of the blue, and asked, "Are you religious?".  I told him I wasn't, had no interest in becoming religious and couldn't understand why anyone allowed themselves to be brainwashed into believing everything they are told without being able to prove it.  He then started to try to explain it so I stopped him and said, "Let's just suppose that I have an invisible monkey that sits on my shoulder, watches everything I do and whispers in my ear telling me what decisions I should make and how I should live my life.  He's completely invisible, only I can see or hear him and nobody else can.  You'd probably think I was a nutter right?  Now you tell me what the difference is between my invisible monkey and your God?"  He never said a word and religion wasn't mentioned to anyone for the whole month of the project.

(06-02-15, 08:39 PM)VNA link Wrote:

Quote:So, vna, what would you suggest?

Usually I'm reasonably up to date on these things.

Just now I'm looking at my 5th week off sick with stress.  Got two parents with dementia, who have stubbornly refused help and as I knew would eventually happen - well the wheels have fallen off.  So since December my life has been pretty hellish to say the least.  Add in an incompetent solicitor, a until now silent sibling butting in, a crap POA document, both parents going down one after the other with a virus..... and well I could go on and on. 

So I'm behind the curve on this.

But I would say we are paying the price of arrogant and incompetent foreign policy spanning the last 60 years or so.

What we do have is huge influence over Saudi, Qatar, Kuwait and the other Wahhabist Sunni states.  We need to stop them and their buddies funding ISIS.  Follow the money that is what is happening. 

We also have to deal with the biggest evil first - ISIS.  We are correct about one thing - they are out of control. We made a mistake in not backing Assad, and a big mistake in supporting the ISIS influenced rebels that opposed him.  We need to open diplomatic channels with Iran (we can see that happening already).  We need to start talking to Putin.  Putin rightly backed Assad along with their ally Iran.

Israel.  It's about time we exercised our influence over Israel.  This seems impossible as the USA seems incapable of standing up to Israel.  But we have a moral obligation to limited our trade with Israel.  It's about time we refused to sell or maintain any Israeli military equipment for a start.  We can influence them without the USA, as the USA is Israel's only steadfast ally.

But sorry I haven't read a newspaper in about two months.  I'm way behind the curve now.

If you do want to understand what is happening you could do a lot worse than reading Robert Fisk's and Patrick Cockburn's reports (or books) - they are two of the foremost journalistic experts in the world on these matters.

(12-02-15, 11:06 AM)maddog04 link Wrote: could be worse lew, we could have lukaku (£27M) :eek