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Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - slimwilly - 15-09-14
D01 16 = eat more cake :lol
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - unfazed - 15-09-14
D01 16 Throttle position sensor (Stuck) will not prevent it starting
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - noggythenog - 15-09-14
(15-09-14, 08:53 AM)unfazed link Wrote: D01 16 Throttle position sensor (Stuck) will not prevent it starting
I think you're right, it is most likely a red herring.....i bet that code would have come up even before i was having starting issues....i will be doing all the connectors when i get some time as i need to do it slowly and methodically.
Sods law i've started up the bike about 6 times since yesterday evening and it hasn't failed to start once.
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - noggythenog - 15-09-14
(15-09-14, 08:53 AM)unfazed link Wrote: D01 16 Throttle position sensor (Stuck) will not prevent it starting
& i've had no throttle issues whatsoever.
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - slimwilly - 15-09-14
Your bike knows what you are doing,,
you go out to test the start,,it starts,,,
you organise a big trip,,get all your gear on,,go out,,,it won't start :lol
Mine was like that for a while.. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol bastard
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - tony_d123 - 15-09-14
(14-09-14, 06:40 PM)noggythenog link Wrote: I've just done the test and i get D01 16.................so according to that list above then i have the Throttle position sensor (Stuck) code...is that right?..does it sound like a likely culprit based on my symptoms?......but i'm lost as to the whole throttle thing.....as i hold in the buttons and the fault code D01 16 is displayed and then i slowly twist the throttle then it goes from this 16 all the way up to 96 and then back down to 16 as i throttle off......but i really don't know the relevance of this part?
Is this code pretty reliable or is it common to get this code with mods or for other faults to wrongly present this code?
If it is the TPS then i know where it is as i noticed it under the tank the other day but from there on i'm stumped again......i also know that above the TPS is a little revolving nut that clicks around (i accidentally knocked it a notch and then back again) anyone know what it is?
So many questions......such a small brain
Sorry Nog, I can't really help you, I just saw the codes on the US Fazer site and thought it may help you pinpoint the fault. The taped up wires look like they could from the LH handlebar switch, is that correct? The fused wire from the battery may have fed a relay for accessories such as more powerful horns or a 12v socket. You would use the horn wire to switch the relay.
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - noggythenog - 15-09-14
Thanks mate, its a handy thing to know.
& yep ive got a 12v socket under the seat plus theres the led indicators, integrated rear light, a gear shift indicator & a tom tom wire so there's a few culprits for those wires...they've always been like that so as untidy as they are im not sure they are the culprit either.
Looking forward to getting at those connectors now. 8)
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - tony_d123 - 15-09-14
I had a similar thing with my FZS600, every now and then it wouldn't start, but in my case wouldn't even turn over. It turned out to be the Datatool alarm immobiliser. Finally after it refused to start when I stopped at a petrol station in the middle of nowhere I took it to a dealer to get it removed. Intermittent faults are a pain!
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - pilgo - 16-09-14
(15-09-14, 07:51 PM)tony_d123 link Wrote: I had a similar thing with my FZS600, every now and then it wouldn't start, but in my case wouldn't even turn over. It turned out to be the Datatool alarm immobiliser. Finally after it refused to start when I stopped at a petrol station in the middle of nowhere I took it to a dealer to get it removed. Intermittent faults are a pain!
this !! ^
had exactly the same symptoms,removed the immobiliser and jobs a good one,starts first time,great peace of mind,not worrying that 'will it start' every time you turn it off. your'll get there noggy :lol
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - unfazed - 16-09-14
Noggy
I uploaded the 2008 FZ1 service manual to the site this morning. It will give the location of all the bits
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;cat=4
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - noggythenog - 16-09-14
(16-09-14, 07:41 PM)unfazed link Wrote: Noggy
I uploaded the 2008 FZ1 service manual to the site this morning. It will give the location of all the bits
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;cat=4
cheers! :thumbup
almost got some days off so looking forward to tinkering.
Watching the revs after start up the other day I also noticed that it appears to be ticking over quite low at about 800rpm and I've read that 1300rpm is more suitable for the FZ1...thing is I cant quite remember it ticking over this low before or maybe it was and I just didn't notice.
Also I removed the baffle recently didn't I and so that also got me thinking along the lines of has removing the baffle somehow affected back pressure.....I think i'll stick the baffle back in anyway and then see what the tick over is like and if it is still low then I've looked up where the tick over adjustor is so i'll put it up a bit over the 1000rpm at least.
& then if it is indeed just a connector then I've also managed to adjust and spray and good few other bits n bobs anyway so happy days.
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - noggythenog - 17-09-14
Hey chaps i had a little bit of time and was desperate to get out for a spin so i haven't done all the connectors yet but i did do the following:-
Put the baffle back in.
Took the gear linkage off and back on at a different angle on the splines...adjusted it.
Increased the idle to about 1300rpm
Some more graphite spray in the ignition.
I did about 50 miles and i stopped 3 times and restarted with not a single starting issue but ill need more of a long term test to see if it does it.
The airbox mod is awesome and theres a really deep growl at about 5-6k revs before wind noise blocks it out...really cool though.
I've also noticed that one of or maybe all of the mods have made the throttle less snatchy which is a good result 8) [size=78%] [/size]
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - unfazed - 17-09-14
Your getting happier :lol
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - slimwilly - 18-09-14
Thatsgood noggy. I bet you had a big grin. Front wbeel off the ground
Re: Gen 2 intermittent starting. - pilgo - 20-09-14
(17-09-14, 08:47 PM)noggythenog link Wrote: Hey chaps i had a little bit of time and was desperate to get out for a spin so i haven't done all the connectors yet but i did do the following:-
Put the baffle back in.
Took the gear linkage off and back on at a different angle on the splines...adjusted it.
Increased the idle to about 1300rpm
Some more graphite spray in the ignition.
I did about 50 miles and i stopped 3 times and restarted with not a single starting issue but ill need more of a long term test to see if it does it.
The airbox mod is awesome and theres a really deep growl at about 5-6k revs before wind noise blocks it out...really cool though.
I've also noticed that one of or maybe all of the mods have made the throttle less snatchy which is a good result 8)
:thumbup