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Re: Will not rev past 8k. - positron - 16-07-14
(16-07-14, 10:23 AM)andybesy link Wrote: From memory I'm pretty sure the idle idle adjuster is on the left side?
EDIT: actually maybe you're right I forgot now. I do my choke manually on left side so I may be confusing with that.
You are correct, it's on the left.. Or is it too late to say "I meant the other right"?
Thanks Buzz, will have a read thru that thread now.
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - midden - 17-07-14
Leave the choke at half position for longer untill warmed up, you'll know definatley if you leave it on for too long as the bike willstart to become sluggish.
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - positron - 19-07-14
Thanks again for the tips, managed to set the idle speed right with some WD40 and by holding the cable steady with o e hand while turning the knob with the other. Just over 1000 rpm now and looks good. I will have to wait till Monday to see if it has fixed the problem.
While I had the tools out, I also adjusted the rear shock preload tighter by two more notches. I didn't have any major issues to start off with, but thought I would see how it feels.
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - thunderpantz - 19-07-14
Idle should be around 1500 I think according to haynes
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - Dave48 - 19-07-14
(19-07-14, 11:32 AM)thunderpantz link Wrote: Idle should be around 1500 I think according to haynesThe correct idle speed range for the FZS 600 is 1150-1250rpm. This needs to be adjusted with the engine up to normal operating temperature. Good luck!
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - Dave48 - 19-07-14
(19-07-14, 06:12 PM)Dave48 link Wrote: [quote author=thunderpantz link=topic=13563.msg159006#msg159006 date=1405765954]The correct idle speed range for the FZS 600 is 1150-1250rpm. This needs to be adjusted with the engine up to normal operating temperature. Good luck!
Idle should be around 1500 I think according to haynes
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as mentioned in"unfazeds" post on 7th July!
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - positron - 20-07-14
A lot of enthusiasm + lack of knowledge + not having right tools + monkey fist * stupidity = disaster(s). Woops!
Okay, so my bike is a bit of a mess. The more I look the more issues I find, and unfortunately the more I try to fix it the more I make it worse...
Trying to adjust the chain, undid the rear axle nut, but both nuts on the chain adjuster bolt on the right side were well seized, and yes, I broke the bolt! It's still long enough for the first nut, just no room for the locking nut. On the plus side that adjuster nut that is there is now turning, so I have set the chain slack right (I hope), but when a new chain goes on I will to get a new bolt in there. I hope that's not too hard / expensive job.
Then I upped my antics, and lifted the front of the bike up putting axle stands somewhere close to where the main stand would be.. ish. And I found that the front calipers are fairly tight on the disk and the wheel is barely turning, and trying to manhandle it out the bike moved a bit, slipped from the axle stand, and somehow it got to the 'water pump outlet hose' thingee (according to the manual) at the left side of the bike, and it's put a hole there. Double Doh!! It spits out coolant if I run the engine. Anyone know where to get one of these, they look easy enough to change - two clamps and should be straight forward right? And new coolant of course. In the meantime would it be worth trying to wrap it in some self-amalgamating tape?
Something like this: http://www.halfords.ie/motoring/auto-parts/car-tape-glue-velcro/harris-pipe--hose-repair-tape-25mmx3m
The brake pads looks bad. I could see uneven wear - thinner at the front of the pads, thicker at the back. Not much life left anyway. Pistons are not moving all the way back. I don't know how to really service calipers. I guess I will hit youtube and see if there's any good videos about it.
On the plus side I am learning... something... I hope I am. And my dad, an ex-army engineer, on skype from India had a hearty laugh at the mess I got myself into. His advice: advice: get a new bike.
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - darrsi - 20-07-14
Does it run okay around the 2 to 3000rpm mark, or is it a bit jerky at all with plenty of clutch control needed?
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - positron - 20-07-14
(20-07-14, 05:09 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Does it run okay around the 2 to 3000rpm mark, or is it a bit jerky at all with plenty of clutch control needed?
It runs okay. Are you referring to the 8k issue? That's been solved. I should edit the title of the thread.
I have wrapped the "holy" water pump outlet hose in the two part "haris pipe and hose repair tape". It was horrible to do it as there was very little room behind that pipe, and I suspect if it would actually contain the leak. I haven't started it, just in case if this self-amalgamating tape thingee needs time to set. Will see how it's in the morning. Does anyone here have one of these yokes lying around, perhaps from upgrading to fancy kit?
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - noggythenog - 20-07-14
(20-07-14, 08:16 PM)positron link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=13563.msg159138#msg159138 date=1405872576]
Does it run okay around the 2 to 3000rpm mark, or is it a bit jerky at all with plenty of clutch control needed?
It runs okay. Are you referring to the 8k issue? That's been solved. I should edit the title of the thread.
I have wrapped the "holy" water pump outlet hose in the two part "haris pipe and hose repair tape". It was horrible to do it as there was very little room behind that pipe, and I suspect if it would actually contain the leak. I haven't started it, just in case if this self-amalgamating tape thingee needs time to set. Will see how it's in the morning. Does anyone here have one of these yokes lying around, perhaps from upgrading to fancy kit?
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Positron....take a deep breath...and relax :lol
Firstly...the swingarm.....everything is replaceable......but you gotta stop foccing things up.....I've got to be honest I've never needed to adjust the chain myself...by the time I need tyres and the tyre guys take them off and they do it up....I dunno every time I checked the chain it was ok.....but the standard spanners for the adjustors are just woeful anyway.
I have offered my swingarm to fizzypies on the cheap if he organises postage, if he doesn't want it then maybe you could be interested....it has new bearings in it so is a little bit future proof.....postage is the killer....and I would get somebody nearby in the know to help you out with fitting it....or just ebay for the adjustor parts and replace them instead....I only want £15 for the swingarm which covers my time only in taking it off and cleaning it up...like I say postage is the issue.
The rad hose.....ok I kept my old rad hoses for this reason....but some may be missing...post up a pic of the one you need and ill have a look.......if you pay postage on it then you can have it.....if I have it.
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - darrsi - 20-07-14
(20-07-14, 08:16 PM)positron link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=13563.msg159138#msg159138 date=1405872576]
Does it run okay around the 2 to 3000rpm mark, or is it a bit jerky at all with plenty of clutch control needed?
It runs okay. Are you referring to the 8k issue? That's been solved. I should edit the title of the thread.
I have wrapped the "holy" water pump outlet hose in the two part "haris pipe and hose repair tape". It was horrible to do it as there was very little room behind that pipe, and I suspect if it would actually contain the leak. I haven't started it, just in case if this self-amalgamating tape thingee needs time to set. Will see how it's in the morning. Does anyone here have one of these yokes lying around, perhaps from upgrading to fancy kit?
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Ignore me, i was reading earlier about the bike cutting out but can see you got it sorted.
Re: Will not rev past 8k. - positron - 20-07-14
(20-07-14, 08:40 PM)noggythenog link Wrote: but you gotta stop foccing things up....
Okay. Done.
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No, I give up - it's too hard. I was born this way it seems.
Thank you for the offer, you are very kind. Postage might be an issue for swing arm. And this is the water hose thingee picture, it's on the left side of the bike.
![[Image: IMG_20140720_130333.jpg]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uA5cxsedaKY/U8vPiPCcwzI/AAAAAAAAGj0/LaS5kxDXeNE/w692-h519-no/IMG_20140720_130333.jpg)
I am meeting someone who is taking apart a crashed fallen Fazer for a main stand, I will see if he has this yoke. If not I might just take you up on that offer.
daarsi, thanks, it seems to be running fine at 2-3k speeds, I am yet to have a good long run after setting the correct idle speed, but I might not have that pleasure for a while if my band-aid work doesn't stop the coolant leak. Thanks again.
Re: [Fixed] Will not rev past 8k - fazersharp - 20-07-14
Ok sorry but cant be arsed to read everything but saw sum pictures of old and new filters so here is --- was mine after 15years on the bike and 15k miles against a new oem one and I saw no difference in the bike after fitting
Re: [Fixed] Will not rev past 8k - His Dudeness - 21-07-14
Have you checked where the pipe is leaking from? It might have just moved from the fall rather than split. If you want to get new Yamaha parts use this parts manual http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=13 Danfay are the main Yamaha parts dealer in Dublin. If you call them up and quote the parts number they'll give you a price.
Danfay Ltd
61 Sallynoggin rd Co. Dublin
Phone: (01)2859177
Re: [Fixed] Will not rev past 8k - darrsi - 21-07-14
(20-07-14, 11:40 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Ok sorry but cant be arsed to read everything but saw sum pictures of old and new filters so here is --- was mine after 15years on the bike and 15k miles against a new oem one and I saw no difference in the bike after fitting
If you'd taken the time to have a little read you'd realise the reason he can feel a difference is because he's swapped an original for a K&N, which has a greater air flow in comparison.
All you've done is swap the same one for a newer one so, although you were rather late doing it, you wouldn't have noticed too much of a difference.
Re: [Fixed] Will not rev past 8k - Dave48 - 21-07-14
Positron-I am reading the continuing saga/drama of this thread and ,without meaning to patronise you, you remind me very much of the way I was as a youngster(I was once!).
Salient points;
You need your bike on the road to commute(presumably to work?)
You dont have a lot of time/knowledge/many tools
You say youre heavy handed with limited attention span.
As "noggy" says....Slow down,take a deep breath.
We all need help from others-hence this fantastic forum with all the knowledge it has to offer (often gained by bitter experience!)
Thoughts for consideration:
I suggest you must have some attention span in order to ride a bike/pass a test-Dont sell yourself short!
Have you got any friends with bike knowledge local to you?
Do you have a copy of the manual for your bike(download from forum)/Haynes manual?
Looks like you are trying to do all the service/maintenance jobs but while trying to save money/learn about your bike-you are maybe rushing at things which is causing you unnecessary pain/expense.
Slowly build up a kit of tools that you will actually use-as "unfazed" says-you will only need certain sizes of sockets/spanners.
Dont start a job that you cant finish before needing bike to ride again-sounds obvious but talking from experience.
For safety critical jobs like brakes if you dont have the knowledge yet-get a wise friend or a trusty dealer.
its taken some of us years to learn how to do things without "foccing" them up & sometimes I still do!
Above all relax & "Give Time Time "
Good luck :lol
Re: [Fixed] Will not rev past 8k - positron - 21-07-14
fazersharp, thank you for a side by side photos of the old and new filters. It will certaintly anyone in future googling to learn and DIY.
His Dudeness, yes, can see a half a centimeter split/hole just about a centimeter below where it clamps onto the metal pipe going to the radiator. Thanks for the link, I think I have found the part numbers (from page 7), and it's called "hose 6"
07 90467-26189-00 Clip
08 90450-32051-00 Hose Clamp Assy
11 4YR-12589-00-00 Hose 6
Didn't know Danfay was the main dealers, and they are in Sallynoggin which is just 15 mins from my work address. Brilliant stuff!
Meanwhile, the guy breaking a Fazer has confirmed he has both the chain adjusters and the 'bottom water hose' as he calls it, so I might pick it up later today.
Dave48, thank you kind sir, this forum has already demistified the bike for me in so many levels, but you are right there is so much more to learn before I ruin the bike or put myself in danger. Having said that, now that I am in the semi-deep end of it, I might as well try and change this hose tonight and flush the coolant while at it..
Will keep you all posted!
Re: [Fixed] Will not rev past 8k - redthunder - 21-07-14
Posi, i'm in Lucan and have the same bike, most tools needed, a haynes manual, a small bit of experience working on my bike, plenty of patience, and as of right now a broken finger that won't heal right.
I'm out of work for the next few weeks (and the past seven :eek ) - you are more than welcome to drop over and I can provide another pair of hands & eyes and help out if I can!
Re: [Fixed] Will not rev past 8k - noggythenog - 21-07-14
Right then positron.........which hose do you need.
Top
Middle
Or
Bottom????
Re: [Fixed] Will not rev past 8k - redthunder - 21-07-14
Also posi here's a centre stand for sale: http://www.adverts.ie/parts/yamaha-fazer-600-centre-stand/5914281
Nevermind! I see in his ad for breaking the whole bike you have agreed to buy this from him! :lol