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Re: always hard to start (it was the battery all along!) - carrier - 13-04-13
So far I have
Changed the battery
Changed the spark plugs
Changed the Cdi
Changed the starter cut off relay
Checked the fuel tap
Check the hit coils
Checked the pick up coils
Checked the alternator {visibly fine but the resistance is a little high 0.6 ohm for every wire.)
Am I missing anything?
The bike now sparks "weakly" and if I hold the starter it rumbles but still cant get it to idle... is it not getting the compression needed? I went back to my original cdi.
Re: always hard to start (not the battery) - Ruby Racing - 13-04-13
I'm confused now. Your heading says: (it was the battery all along!), but the post says you still have problems. Which is it? Soz.
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - carrier - 14-04-13
Sorry I edited the first page. All fixed
It was the battery in the end.
Thanks everyone
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - darrsi - 14-04-13
"...Solved... in the end it was the battery. Turns it the last time I took off the tank I forgot to turn the fuel tap back on. The moral is check the battery first!..."
Crikey, you know how to confuse an issue, was it the battery or no fuel?
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - carrier - 14-04-13
It was the battery. I took off the fuel tank twice. The first time to check the the ignition and a second time to check the ht coils, the second time I forgot to turn the tap on again. It was the battery.
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - darrsi - 14-04-13
Yay, i got one right....... :woot
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - Ruby Racing - 14-04-13
Glad you solved it.
This is often the problem with fuel injected bikes as there's so much that needs power if the battery doesn't have enough juice they will often refuse to try to fire up. I have a Triumph Daytona 675 and have had "issues" with the battery. Sometimes they even show enough volts but still wont work. Usually means the battery is goosed and time for a new one.
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - carrier - 14-04-13
(14-04-13, 05:31 PM)Ruby Racing link Wrote: Glad you solved it.
This is often the problem with fuel injected bikes as there's so much that needs power if the battery doesn't have enough juice they will often refuse to try to fire up. I have a Triumph Daytona 675 and have had "issues" with the battery. Sometimes they even show enough volts but still wont work. Usually means the battery is goosed and time for a new one.
Its a carb bike :rolleyes...
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - Ruby Racing - 14-04-13
(14-04-13, 08:28 PM)carrier link Wrote: [quote author=Ruby Racing link=topic=7028.msg69478#msg69478 date=1365957072]
Glad you solved it.
This is often the problem with fuel injected bikes as there's so much that needs power if the battery doesn't have enough juice they will often refuse to try to fire up. I have a Triumph Daytona 675 and have had "issues" with the battery. Sometimes they even show enough volts but still wont work. Usually means the battery is goosed and time for a new one.
Its a carb bike :rolleyes ...
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Yeah I know! (Done in a Little Britain voice). I have one myself after all.
I should have said something like "it's usually fuel injected bikes that have this problem." But I didn't. Ne'er mind eh. :nana
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - reillypadraig - 15-04-13
Glad she is fixed and working after all that, if it happens again check the reg/rectifier? If its not giving the battery the right charge it will bollox the battery eventually that's where the last battery was dying and at the bike on idle it's running on the battery, not enough charge from the generator until about 2,500-3000 rev to re-charge, I'm open to be corrected on this but worth a look after you spent so much on replacing everything else
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - Ruby Racing - 15-04-13
(15-04-13, 01:52 AM)reillypadraig link Wrote: Glad she is fixed and working after all that, if it happens again check the reg/rectifier? If its not giving the battery the right charge it will bollox the battery eventually that's where the last battery was dying and at the bike on idle it's running on the battery, not enough charge from the generator until about 2,500-3000 rev to re-charge, I'm open to be corrected on this but worth a look after you spent so much on replacing everything else
I agree, check the R/R in case it's goosed and takes out your new battery.
Re: always hard to start (she breathes fire and demands miles as a sacrifice)solved - carrier - 15-04-13
(15-04-13, 03:47 PM)Ruby Racing link Wrote: [quote author=reillypadraig link=topic=7028.msg69582#msg69582 date=1365987163]
Glad she is fixed and working after all that, if it happens again check the reg/rectifier? If its not giving the battery the right charge it will bollox the battery eventually that's where the last battery was dying and at the bike on idle it's running on the battery, not enough charge from the generator until about 2,500-3000 rev to re-charge, I'm open to be corrected on this but worth a look after you spent so much on replacing everything else
I agree, check the R/R in case it's goosed and takes out your new battery.
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It was probably the shorting out every single wire when they tried to hot wire it, that killed the battery. Even above 3000 it would die.... didn't matter where the rpm was it would die.