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Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - ghostbiker - 11-09-12

(11-09-12, 09:37 PM)bigsteve link Wrote: If the BT023's you've got are BT023GT's they are stiffer carcass by design for heavier bikes

Yeah and I put one on by mistake, it has less feel than the normal 023 it replaced (rear) and took a lot longer to heat up. Once warm it griped as well as the non gt 023 just less give. Allways felt over inflated even when I tried at 10 psi under for a while.
The 023 normals are very good. I now have pr3s on and they to are very good. Both heat up fast, grip well wet or dry. (might give the 023 the edge in wet for feel)  now just waiting to see how they wear.

Also have a track day on 19th that will give it a good seeing to LOL.
Both are excellent tyres just avoid the GT 023.

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - Falcon 269 - 12-09-12

(11-09-12, 09:37 PM)bigsteve link Wrote: If the BT023's you've got are BT023GT's they are stiffer carcass by design for heavier bikes

Just went and checked - yes, you're right.  GTs.  I hope the bloody things go on easily enough. Wink

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - pitternator - 12-09-12

Grandma
Ref visordown test of PR3...after 1800 miles of hard use they reckon the tyre is " half worn"...so they aint gonna get 10k out of theirs!
Its like I say, its how you use your bike. If like me ,I do like to use all 139 of my ponies...no tyre will last beyond 5k miles. As such its not realistic to claim all riders will get anywhere near 10k out of a rear.

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - Falcon 269 - 12-09-12

Quite a fight with the BT-023 GTs today.  Bastidges! Big Grin

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - Phil TK - 12-09-12

(12-09-12, 05:51 PM)Falcon 269 link Wrote: Quite a fight with the BT-023 GTs today.  Bastidges! Big Grin


Are they tougher than removing a Dunlop TT100?  I used to hacksaw those things off in my youth, no joke.

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - pitternator - 16-09-12

visions do rush through my mind  of " earnest bodger" ........ :lol

its on a par with skewering the oil filter with a screwdriver...brutal ...but has to be done sometimes... :\

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - JayB - 17-09-12

CURVEBALL / HIJACK;

But has anyone tried the Metzeler Z8s yet?

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - hotmetal - 22-09-12

I've had 020s, 021s and 023s on my Thous, and Conti Road Attacks. Currently got Pilot Road 3s.
020s were a million times better than the OEM Metzeler MEZ4s (not difficult - worlds worst tyre)/ I took them round Snetterton and bobbled them up nicely.
021s were grippier than the 020s but didn't last as long
023s were somehow a mix of the two, warmed up fairly quickly, nice neutral profile, OK in wet. Lasted maybe 8000 (rear)

Only had the MPR3s for a couple of thousand miles, but they are really nice. Neutral and confidence inspiring, look hardly worn after about 2000 miles, warm up in about 500 yards or something, and are really good in the wet (which does matter to me). They do look a bit odd with their wet weather tread pattern, seems to attract comments - some love the look some hate it. So long as they do the job I don't care! I would say they're my favourite tyre yet, but then I don't push them as hard as, say, Pitternator.

I'm not a knee-down demon, more of a commuter/tourer/backroads Sunday blaster, but as someone said, the tyres we commute on nowadays are better than what Barry Sheene and Eddie Lawson raced on back in the day, so you pays yer money and takes yer choice.

BTW Mike, I think the BT020 suffix/nomenclature was 'U' IIRC.

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - ghostbiker - 23-09-12

well the PR3's were fantastic on the brands hatch GP track day. bobbled up nicely and the only time i had ANY trouble from them was when going in to westfield i had a blowout and ended up in the gravel trap lol.
but the tyre had not let go, the valve stem had snapped off.

as a side note if you have those tyre preasure checker valve caps throw the fuckers away NOW before they kill you. :'(



Oh and PS i kept it upright in the gravel even with a flat tyre Smile but i dont think my pants will ever come clean again.


Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - Looney tune - 07-07-13

Just been doing the search thing on tyres as my PR3's are fecked. Rear has squared a bit and the front during my last few outings has worn quicker on the right hand side and it's 'rough' looking, this is after 3000 miles and I am noooooo Valentino. Even when the tyres were in good shape I never felt that happy with the front, it felt that it was stepping out when pushing through a corner.
I am fitting 023's on Tuesday which I was lucky to get at a good price from a fellow foccer (new). What are peoples opinions now on these 2 makes of tyres now ?


Cheers, Russ

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - Tmation - 08-07-13

What does it matter what peoples opinions are now you have bought them  :lol


BT30 is the latest sport touring and are supposed to be excellent, they even have Valentino in the advert  :pokefun .


I have just put some Dunlop Roadsmart 2's on my Gen 1 and very happy so far (my Roadsmart 1's lasted nearly 7000 miles for rear)

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - nick crisp - 08-07-13

(02-09-12, 05:56 AM)Falcon 269 link Wrote: The PR2 has been the best I've fitted on the Thou.  Nearly 7000 miles out of a pair and consistent grip/steering right to the end. 

Maybe not the ultimate in wet weather grip (if you believe the marketing hype about the latest generation of tyres) but available cheaper now.
Funny, I find PR2s great in the wet, barely have to change the way I ride. I think some of this good tyre thing is psychological - if you believe in the tyres you're on, you'll get on with them better. Same thing works for riding in general. If you're confident in your abilities, you'll be able to go faster/corner harder etc.

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - Looney tune - 08-07-13

(08-07-13, 03:42 AM)Tmation link Wrote: What does it matter what peoples opinions are now you have bought them  :lol 



Not a helluva lot, but this post was started last September and there are loads of new members on here since then who may have more to add to the pot for members in the future, or anyone else looking in for that matter  Confusedmokin Smile


[quote author=Tmation link=topic=4451.msg86405#msg86405 date=1373251346]
BT30 is the latest sport touring and are supposed to be excellent, they even have Valentino in the advert  :pokefun .


Shit, Ive not seen the advert yet. I love him so much I can't shite  :pokefun
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Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - PaulSmith - 08-07-13

I fitted T30s on Saterday and I had completly forgotten I had new tyres on within a couple of miles. Ok, it was ideal conditions, fresh rubber on warm roads and taking it (quite) handy as my missus was on the back, but I have never got used to new tyres that fast before.




Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - tomlinscote - 08-07-13

Jusr replaced my pilot road 1's with the 3's and am impressed so far, I'm no corner demon but have got nearer the edge with these than on any previous tyre. Tip in is more pronounced than the 1's but they were a little square so it could just be new tyre-itis but not gone out in the wet yet so only dry impressions so far.

Tomo

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - sadlonelygit - 08-07-13

pirelli angels £160
good enough to go to Rome and back, and get the knee down after that.
imo most of the modern ST tyres are far better than any of us as riders for road use.
heard a few horror stories re:pr3's chunking up the rears
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Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - stevierst - 08-07-13

My bro-in-law had a set of angel st's on his tuned up mille. He rides like a demon, and is hardly off the throttle, hence why the rear lasted him only 2k :o
Damn good tyres. I'm on a contimotion rear on the fz1, and I can  edge them out with loadsa grip! Modern st tyres are great, why would you buy full on sport rubber? :-\

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - esetest - 08-07-13

I upgraded from bt021 to bt023 st version , the improvement is amazing  , never tried the pr3 so couldn't compare , but would definitely    recommend the bto23 .

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - bigfootpete - 09-07-13

Just ask at your tyre shop what the most popular tyre is - they'll tell you its the Pr3's - for good reason.
Bridgestones always have a problem with squaring off, you don't get that so much with the Michelins.

Re: BT023 Vs PR3 - AyJay - 09-07-13

BT023s really do change the feel of the bike as they wear and square off. The steering feels very slow and measured when they're new, 2000 miles in they feel neutral then the last 2000 you really have to hold the inside bar to prevent the bike flopping into the slow corners. Personally, I don't mind this because I can really chuck it on it's side when they're worn.


Still think they edge out the alternatives I've tried and they are very predictable in the wet. Which is pretty much the last 14 months of UK riding, if memory serves. Actually, I know for that for a fact. From April 21st last year, there were 96 days of rain in next hundred. I know because I'd just bought a new bike. Growl.


Isn't it bliss at the moment? I swear I've slowed down this week because it's been so nice. It's like being tickled by angels feeling the warm wind rushing through my air vents.