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Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 07-03-21

And I'm up for replacing mine this year, so that'll be another one "stored"  :'( :'(


Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 09-03-21

(07-03-21, 08:40 PM)fazerscotty link Wrote: And I'm up for replacing mine this year, so that'll be another one "stored"  :'( :'(
What’s on your shortlist?


Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 10-03-21

Caberg, flip front, in grey.


Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 11-03-21

(10-03-21, 09:18 PM)fazerscotty link Wrote: Caberg, flip front, in grey.
Just a matter of looking for the best deal if you know your size then. My Arai, although coming up for 5 years old, is only used for pleasure riding, so doesn't get the constant use like when commuting. Being a staunch Arai user, I'd consider the new Quantic, when a change is due.


Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 11-03-21

(11-03-21, 05:16 PM)robbo link Wrote: [quote author=fazerscotty link=topic=25540.msg323737#msg323737 date=1615407536]
Caberg, flip front, in grey.
Just a matter of looking for the best deal if you know your size then. My Arai, although coming up for 5 years old, is only used for pleasure riding, so doesn't get the constant use like when commuting. Being a staunch Arai user, I'd consider the new Quantic, when a change is due.
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have you seen the new Ruroc?


Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 11-03-21

(11-03-21, 08:40 PM)fazerscotty link Wrote: [quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg323764#msg323764 date=1615479366]
[quote author=fazerscotty link=topic=25540.msg323737#msg323737 date=1615407536]
Caberg, flip front, in grey.
Just a matter of looking for the best deal if you know your size then. My Arai, although coming up for 5 years old, is only used for pleasure riding, so doesn't get the constant use like when commuting. Being a staunch Arai user, I'd consider the new Quantic, when a change is due.
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have you seen the new Ruroc?
[/quote]Wow, had to google that as had never heard of that make. Reminded me a little of the Simpson Bandit. I must admit there are quite a few good quality little known helmet makes, outside of the mainstream Arai/Shoei etc.


Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 12-03-21

(11-03-21, 11:15 PM)robbo link Wrote: [quote author=fazerscotty link=topic=25540.msg323767#msg323767 date=1615491614]
[quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg323764#msg323764 date=1615479366]
[quote author=fazerscotty link=topic=25540.msg323737#msg323737 date=1615407536]
Caberg, flip front, in grey.
Just a matter of looking for the best deal if you know your size then. My Arai, although coming up for 5 years old, is only used for pleasure riding, so doesn't get the constant use like when commuting. Being a staunch Arai user, I'd consider the new Quantic, when a change is due.
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have you seen the new Ruroc?
[/quote]Wow, had to google that as had never heard of that make. Reminded me a little of the Simpson Bandit. I must admit there are quite a few good quality little known helmet makes, outside of the mainstream Arai/Shoei etc.
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If it wasn't the cost/unknown history, I would be going for one. Needs a track record really.


Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 13-03-21

“Needs a track record”. Exactly. I remember, a good few years ago, a racer, an Arai fan, receiving a paid sponsorship to wear a little known make that no other racers were wearing. Having no knowledge of how it would perform, and not wanting to be a celebrity guinea pig, he logoed an Arai with the other brands signature logo. He felt safe and the sponsor got their tv exposure. Only problem would have been anyone wanting to buy that model of helmet, which obviously didn’t exist. Personal recommendation tends to go a long way with me.


Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 13-03-21

(13-03-21, 06:26 PM)robbo link Wrote: “Needs a track record”. Exactly. I remember, a good few years ago, a racer, an Arai fan, receiving a paid sponsorship to wear a little known make that no other racers were wearing. Having no knowledge of how it would perform, and not wanting to be a celebrity guinea pig, he logoed an Arai with the other brands signature logo. He felt safe and the sponsor got their tv exposure. Only problem would have been anyone wanting to buy that model of helmet, which obviously didn’t exist. Personal recommendation tends to go a long way with me.


:lol If only there were more like us - I'd be surprised if China would exist!


Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 14-03-21

The trouble with China, purchasingwise, is that so much known brand stuff is made there, even though you may believe you're buying a european/us product. It's quite disheartening when you've paid good money for a branded product, only to see Made in China, when you open the box. :'(


Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 14-03-21

(14-03-21, 04:35 PM)robbo link Wrote: The trouble with China, purchasingwise, is that so much known brand stuff is made there, even though you may believe you're buying a european/us product. It's quite disheartening when you've paid good money for a branded product, only to see Made in China, when you open the box. :'(


I read an article earlier, where somebody had bought a "Lectek?" exhaust system. U.K. based company, but the product had been produced in China, on the cheap, then shipped halfway round the world to be sold as "British".  :eek


Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 14-03-21

No doubt on eBay you’ll be able to find a Lextek copy for a third of the price, that’s come out of the same factory. A pal bought an Akra copy with the link pipe, hanger and exhaust springs for £37 a year ago from China. It took about a month to be delivered, but is still going strong showing little signs of ageing. When you know it’s Chinese and is cheap, it’s sometimes worth the risk, because if it’s no good it’s in the bin. Rukka is always associated with Scandinavia, people believing that’s where it’s made. Their latest suit, the Kingsley, is £2,399.98 RRP. It does have a long guarantee, 5years I think, but it’s made in China. Imagine what the mark-up is on that :eek


Re: Whoever posts last is best - Grahamm - 14-03-21

(14-03-21, 04:35 PM)robbo link Wrote: The trouble with China, purchasingwise, is that so much known brand stuff is made there,

The difference is that, if you're buying direct from China, you've got very little comeback if the product is faulty.

You might get a refund,  but you've no legal right to it.


Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 15-03-21

(14-03-21, 11:54 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg323809#msg323809 date=1615736105]
The trouble with China, purchasingwise, is that so much known brand stuff is made there,

The difference is that, if you're buying direct from China, you've got very little comeback if the product is faulty.

You might get a refund,  but you've no legal right to it.
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Can I send Covid back then? Not bothered with a refund  :lol :lol


Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 15-03-21

(14-03-21, 11:54 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=robbo link=topic=25540.msg323809#msg323809 date=1615736105]
The trouble with China, purchasingwise, is that so much known brand stuff is made there,

The difference is that, if you're buying direct from China, you've got very little comeback if the product is faulty.

You might get a refund,  but you've no legal right to it.
[/quote]The point I was making is, buying directly from China, as you say, is very much getting what you pay for, and agree there's no chance of recompense if faulty etc. It's just very disappointing, after making a researched decision to buy a named make quality item, you find out it's made in China. Admittedly there will be a guarantee on the item, but the stigma of Made in China certainly takes the wind out of your sails, when you thought the item was made in the UK/Germany/USA etc.


Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 16-03-21

(14-03-21, 11:43 PM)robbo link Wrote: No doubt on eBay you’ll be able to find a Lextek copy for a third of the price, that’s come out of the same factory. A pal bought an Akra copy with the link pipe, hanger and exhaust springs for £37 a year ago from China. It took about a month to be delivered, but is still going strong showing little signs of ageing. When you know it’s Chinese and is cheap, it’s sometimes worth the risk, because if it’s no good it’s in the bin. Rukka is always associated with Scandinavia, people believing that’s where it’s made. Their latest suit, the Kingsley, is £2,399.98 RRP. It does have a long guarantee, 5years I think, but it’s made in China. Imagine what the mark-up is on that :eek


Who the f*** pays that much for a set of waterproofs?


Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 16-03-21

That's where firms like Klarna come into play. "How much", says the customer, "Yes it is expensive, but comes with a 5 year guarantee and we can sign you up for interest free payments". Before you know it you've got the boots and gloves to go with it, and you're making some serious monthly payments. Believe it or not, Motolegends sell shed loads of high priced riding gear like this, and easy finance makes it possible.


Re: Whoever posts last is best - Grahamm - 17-03-21

(16-03-21, 09:40 PM)robbo link Wrote: That's where firms like Klarna come into play [...] and easy finance makes it possible.

Unfortunately very true.

Would you  pay almost £500 for a model car? No? But if it's only £4.99 a week over 100 weeks to get all the bits like some partworks offer you..  :rolleyes


Re: Whoever posts last is best - robbo - 18-03-21

Facilities like Klarna are fine if you do the maths and don't get too carried away. A few years back I used a similar company to get some Halvarsson (poor mans Rukka) trousers that a pal had recommended. They were £400, which was way too much for my budget, but £40 deposit and £30 a month for a year, got me something I could never have afforded otherwise, and avoided the buy crap, buy twice scenario.


Re: Whoever posts last is best - fazerscotty - 18-03-21

For years, I bought my waterproofs from a Farmers supply shop. Two piece, with pockets in the jacket. They were brilliant in the rain (obviously!) and only cost about £6 each time they needed replacing.