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Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 02-09-12
thats what ime trying to say!! he may have counted half turns as full turns hence he got 4 at the first reading!! when in fact he may have been already set at 2!!
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - richfzs - 02-09-12
(02-09-12, 09:18 PM)CRH link Wrote: .......counting one revolution of your driver is only half a turn!!
I was with you, till you said this bit....
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 02-09-12
(02-09-12, 10:41 PM)richfzs link Wrote: [quote author=CRH link=topic=2066.msg37284#msg37284 date=1346617128]
.......counting one revolution of your driver is only half a turn!!
I was with you, till you said this bit....
[/quote]//.......soz rich what i ment to say was?....as" only half a turn!! in other words flat to flat!
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - His Dudeness - 02-09-12
it would be awkward but you could kill the engine the second you feel the hesitation and take out the plug to see what condition they are in. that would tell you what sort of problem you have
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 03-09-12
(02-09-12, 09:18 PM)CRH link Wrote: sorry to here that red?....just had a thought? :rolleyes ......you know when you said that the mixture screws where 4 turns out??...they was ...full turns wasnt they?...what i mean to say is ?...a full turn being ....slot end to slot end twice is one full turn!!!...cus if you just gone ...slot to slot that means you set them to only....1 1/4 turns out?....so the 4 turns you originaly counted was right...it was allfready set to ....2full turns out?.....i may be completely wrong mate but its a easy mistake to make?....thats not saying you have?? but ive done it meself before bt 40yrs ago mind :b .......counting one revolution of your driver is only half a turn!! so you need to count five revolutions to give youself a 2 1/2 ..full turns out!!!!.....
good point crh......its easier to count half turns
defo set to 2.5 turns out and double checked 
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 03-09-12
(02-09-12, 10:45 PM)His Dudeness link Wrote: it would be awkward but you could kill the engine the second you feel the hesitation and take out the plug to see what condition they are in. that would tell you what sort of problem you have
another good tip
thanks dude.....might come to that as not something ive tryed yet [size=78%] [/size]
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 03-09-12
iam sure if i reset the mixture to 4 turns i will be back to where i started....next step will be to remove the filter...that might , just might, make me swear if it solves the problem
.....after that.....you watching ade ?......its back to the carbs :\
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - Fazerider - 03-09-12
(03-09-12, 06:59 AM)red98 link Wrote: iam sure if i reset the mixture to 4 turns i will be back to where i started....next step will be to remove the filter...that might , just might, make me swear if it solves the problem
Erm... 4 half turns.
I have mine set to about 45º less than two full turns.
Anyway, surely the mixture screw only affects the mixture at small throttle openings? By the time you've got the butterfly open far enough to reach 7000 rpm the contribution from the slow jet will be dwarfed by that from the main.
Have to say this sounds more like something blocking airflow, fuel starvation or sparks. I'm sure you've eliminated some of those, but wading back though the 500 entries on this thread would expose my eyes to too much of CRH's punctuation. :rollin
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 03-09-12
4 FULL turns is a lot :eek but its been running like that for the last 30,000 miles no problems
wish i understood it :\
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 03-09-12
i`ve been thinking :eek .......setting the mixture by counting the number of turns on the mixture screws seams to be a bit hit or miss to me,could do a plug check which would be a bit long winded :\ and then i remembered i have a colour tune somewhere
it takes the place of a spark plug and is see through to aid accurate setting of the mixture will see if i can find it tonight anyone else used one of these
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - Fazerider - 03-09-12
Blimey. :eek I'd have thought that would leave things much too rich at idle. Even with under two turns I never need choke unless the temperature is near freezing.
Agreed, Colourtune would be a much more scientific way of setting things up.
Even better would be hooking up an exhaust gas analyser with the bike on a dyno, might be a bit expensive though.
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 03-09-12
the more i think about it the better it gets
........colour tune iam on about :rolleyes ,just hope i can find it :\ bike has never needed choke,so might be a clue there
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 03-09-12
First of all.....fazerider go fk yourself!!!!!!!!!!!....cant see much of your input on this post :b ......Red?....have you binned that air filter?.....if not do so and go road test!....ps, the more intake vacuum you can suck in !!...the higher the HG reading will be!
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - Fazerider - 03-09-12
(03-09-12, 06:26 PM)CRH link Wrote: First of all.....fazerider go fk yourself!!!!!!!!!!!....cant see much of your input on this post :b ......Red?....have you binned that air filter?.....if not do so and go road test!....ps, the more intake vacuum you can suck in !!...the higher the HG reading will be!
My point exactly, it's lost among 15 pages of exclamations and question marks. :lol
:kiss
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - richfzs - 03-09-12
(03-09-12, 06:48 PM)Fazerider link Wrote: My point exactly, it's lost among 15 pages of exclamations and question marks. :lol
:kiss
Well, that and the love in between CRH and red98 - been wondering when they're going to get a room
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - clayt74 - 03-09-12
I'm with crh on this . I have followed this thread and amazed at your dedication to the prob but when you have eliminated everything possible whatever is left no matter how improbable is the answer! Get rid of that tiny niggle in the back of your mind and sort the airfilter !!!!!!!
seriously think you have dug too deep on this one.
Good luck mate. Never quit tho!!!
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 03-09-12
(03-09-12, 06:57 PM)richfzs link Wrote: [quote author=Fazerider link=topic=2066.msg37410#msg37410 date=1346694538]
My point exactly, it's lost among 15 pages of exclamations and question marks. :lol
:kiss
Well, that and the love in between CRH and red98 - been wondering when they're going to get a room
[/quote]......jealous are we rich??....red,s my bitch ok?...go get ure own!!
......ps,red?..left key at reception!...usual room!!
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - ade the blade - 03-09-12
coming back to this colourtune / chart thingy, does it matter whether it`s dulux or crown? or will either do the same job?..........just curious ! :rolleyes
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - Dead Eye - 03-09-12
I'm just curious now in regards to the air filter - I think everyone is waiting for it to finally be removed and burned in to oblivion... or maybe I'm just more of a pyromaniac than I first thought...
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 04-09-12
(03-09-12, 11:34 PM)Dead Eye link Wrote: I'm just curious now in regards to the air filter - I think everyone is waiting for it to finally be removed and burned in to oblivion... or maybe I'm just more of a pyromaniac than I first thought..............5ltr of your finest unleaded....hot dogs...and burgers all on standby!!!!!!!!!
...come on red?..we fkn hungry!!!! :rolleyes